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    Quote Originally Posted by rob8210 View Post
    We all get those brain fart thingys, its called age!!!!
    Lmao! Yeah, in my case it's called real old age!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orgnizdlbr View Post
    Tman, never heard of or seen a sweep meter. Who makes them? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.
    Org, the mention of a sweep meter was in rob's post. I 'm not familiar with that either. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Man View Post
    Org, the mention of a sweep meter was in rob's post. I 'm not familiar with that either. .
    Sorry Tman, it was the wolf avatars......and old age lol. The "sweep" he's talking about is the dial with hand or needle that swings when it sees voltage, like a chance phaser or pot indicator
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orgnizdlbr View Post
    Sorry Tman, it was the wolf avatars......and old age lol. The "sweep" he's talking about is the dial with hand or needle that swings when it sees voltage, like a chance phaser or pot indicator
    Of course! a sweep hand, analog meter is what we called it. I prefer those also, digital is too touchy to temp, light (hard to see sometimes) and affected by stray or inducted voltage at times.

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    Use the right tool for the job.
    Check/test/install
    Check your switching open points LOTO lock out tag out.
    Test the tool you use to test voltage on a live source or otherwise prove testing device works and line is dead.
    Ground line and set up your equipotential zone.

    Or if you really want old school, forget buzzing the line or any testing, you can just slap the ground on real quickly and pray.

    Seriously the rules change all the time. Buzzing is a past practice. Check out the new rules:

    OSHA Releases Final Rule Covering Electrical Safety for Power Plant, Power Line Workers Thursday, April 3, 2014--The Occupational Safety and Health Administration on April 1 announced a final rule (RIN 1218-AB67) to update protections for workers performing construction or maintenance at power plants or on power lines, closing out more than a decade of rulemaking.

    The new rule brings OSHA's electricity construction standard in line with present industry consensus standards, replacing OSHA rules adopted in 1972 and 1994.

    The new final rule applies to general industry employers covered by 29 C.F.R. 1910.269, Electric Power Generation, Transmission and Distribution, and construction employers covered by 29 C.F.R. 1926 Subpart V, Power Transmission and Distribution. The rule primarily affects companies “that construct, operate, maintain, or repair electric power generation, transmission, or distribution installations,” the rule's preamble states. It also will cover manufacturers and other companies “that own or operate their own electric power generation, transmission, or distribution installations as a secondary part of their business operations,” OSHA said.

    Among the significant changes, according to OSHA, are:

    • Host and contract employers must share information on safety matters and coordinate their work rules and procedures; • Employers must provide protective equipment to workers exposed to electrical hazards from electrical arcs no later than April 15, 2015; • Line-clearance tree trimmers must have training on how to recognize and avoid electrical hazards; • Qualified workers must use fall protection when climbing or changing locations on poles and towers, unless the use of fall protection gear poses a greater hazard or is infeasible, starting April 15, 2015; • Multiple crews working together on the same line must either coordinate their activities under a single worker or independently comply with the standards for de-energizing transmission and distribution lines; • New minimum approach distances, effective April 15, 2015, and • recognition of a new class of electrical protective equipment, Class 00 rubber insulating gloves.

    The agency estimated the rule will save about 20 lives and prevent about 120 serious injuries each year and that employers would incur approximately $50 million in annual compliance costs. Roughly one-third of the compliance costs are related to requirements to provide arc-flash protective equipment.

    “Electric utilities, electrical contractors and labor organizations have persistently championed these much-needed measures to better protect the men and women who work on or near electrical power lines,” OSHA chief David Michaels said in an April 1 statement.

    Charles Kelly, director of safety and human resource issues for the power industry group Edison Electric Institute, told Bloomberg BNA April 2 that the organization is still reviewing the rule.

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