lineman school vs jatc

[climbsomemore]

Consumers Energy and some of the other companies in the upper midwest want the bolt through the arm.... claim the arm carries on the weaker threaded part of the bolt.

I can see this being a problem with the fat old "timber" crossarms or on some transmission details... but a standard arm with #2 Al? C'mon.

If a 5/8" bolt wont keep a cross arm on a pole... try a 3/4" if your that worried about things breaking.

[Highplains Drifter]

Back in the dark ages I think bolts where tooled where the new ones look like they roll the thread on them. If you look at a 5/8ths bolt the threads are actually thicker than the shank. A 5/8ths nut from the past will be to small for today’s 5/8ths bolt. A couple of years ago on a wreck out, I had forgotten what the old D.As looked like, they where not all thread like today’s but only had about 8” of thread on both ends. So IMHO I feel with the threads thicker than the shank that the threads are now stronger or just as strong.

[unionhand]

I guess i've never seen a bolt from the "dark ages" yet. But putting the arm on is a matter of prefernce, obviously. i've put them on both ways ( i get to a new local and see how they want it, and i deliver). and ive also had no problem installing or wrecking out a crossarm both ways metioned. gotta be versatile as a good lineman should be. and for the bolt it hold a cross arm that would be pretty heavy wire to snap it off.

highplanes i thought this was the dark ages, bucksqueeze, truck grounds, ncco cards ect...

everyone have a good one and work safe. and buy UNION!!!!!!!

[apprenticelineman]

I was under the impression, people go to line school to get a leg above everyone else to actually getting in a jatc..

You guys make it sound so easy to get in.. School is pre-apprenticeship training... Not actualy apprenticeship.

Thats exactly what I did! I went to Northwest lineman college to just get a foot in the door with anybody and that barely got me a job. I have a class a, ncco crane cert and first aid training and just wanted to get on and start learning and my goal is to get into a jatc program work union and learn how to do this work the right way safely. I can say that some of the people i went to school with did believe they were lineman just because they went to school and I worked with a couple of em that got hired on by the same company and the journey man quickly let them know they werent.