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  1. #11
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    Default As expected

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    As expected ... I'm now trained to put up poles " live line "
    The trainer was ok but admitted he hadn't done a lot of " practical pole erection " typical instructor.

    There is a saying in Ireland , not sure if you merican types have heard the expression

    " THOSE THAT CAN.. DO .. ....... THOSE THAT CAN'T TEACH. "
    IF IT WASN'T FOR BAD LUCK WE WOULD HAVE NO LUCK AT ALL. !

  2. #12

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    And those that can't teach, teach gym.

  3. #13

    Default In Essex

    Quote Originally Posted by bren guzzi View Post
    As expected ... I'm now trained to put up poles " live line "
    The trainer was ok but admitted he hadn't done a lot of " practical pole erection " typical instructor.

    There is a saying in Ireland , not sure if you merican types have heard the expression

    " THOSE THAT CAN.. DO .. ....... THOSE THAT CAN'T TEACH. "
    ...... THOSE THAT CAN'T DO OR TEACH ... ADMINSTRATE.....


    Stu

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    Default Required Annual OSHA Training

    Over time, we all forget things. That’s why critical safety training must be repeated over and over again. In the USA, OSHA mandates that certain safety training be repeated on a regular basis.

    Below is a partial list of OSHA mandated refresher training subjects, their standard numbers, and the frequency that training has to be repeated. This list only addresses OSHA retraining requirements on standards that we believe would be of interest to the majority of our visitors. We did not try to develop an all-inclusive list that addresses OSHA’s more obscure training standards. For a broader perspective on required OSHA training click here.

    Employees who make permit required Confined Space Entry rescues (1910.146) - Annual
    Fire Extinguishers (1910.157) - Annual
    Hearing Protection (1910.95) - Annual
    Respirators (1910.134) - Annual
    Bloodborne pathogens (1910.1030) - Annual
    Hazard Communication (1910.1200) - When a new hazard is introduced, also check for state specific requirements
    Lockout Tagout (1910.147) - When there is a change
    Powered Industrial Trucks (1910.178) - Re-evaluation every three years; re-training if new equipment is introduced, an accident occurs, or if the operator is operating the equipment in an unsafe manner

    Many companies have adopted internal training schedules that are more rigorous than the above schedule. For example, a wood products manufacturer that I work with provides fork truck operator re-certification to its’ employees every two years (OSHA requires re-certification every three years).

    Finally, when is the best time to conduct annual refresher safety training? Below are some examples that you might want to follow:

    Some employers’ work is seasonal. I know of a large farming operation that has about 30 employees year round. But during their busy season (April – October) they have 100 employees. Each April when they hire their part-time help for the year, they hold a full day of safety training for the new part-time employees. Their full-time permanent employees are also required to attend and this is refresher safety training for them.
    Some manufacturing companies (like the paper mill I worked at) shut down the entire factory for maintenance each year for a day or two. During this annual plant shut-down, they conduct full-day annual safety refresher training for the mill employees.

    Some larger companies hold an annual safety “stand down” day. It is often on a Saturday when employees normally would not work. The employees come in to work and attend refresher safety classes during this stand down day.

    Some companies conduct their refresher safety training in small doses throughout the year. They have “monthly department safety meetings” that typically last 30 – 45 minutes each month. These meetings are often held at the beginning of a work shift. The annual refresher training is conducted during these monthly safety meetings until all of the topics have been covered.


    http://www.osha.gov/Publications/osha2254.pdf
    Last edited by CPOPE; 03-21-2013 at 05:03 PM.

  5. #15
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    Default My granny

    My granny needs to be taught to " SUCK EGGS "

    I believe in safety training. " for the right reason" I did this course last year and it is valid for five years. BUT ! Each company DEMANDS that you are trained by them...

    It has nothing to do with safety It's a money making racket. If I leave tomorrow .. The " new company " won't recognise my authorisation ..and would have to do the course again....
    IF IT WASN'T FOR BAD LUCK WE WOULD HAVE NO LUCK AT ALL. !

  6. #16

    Default When California went to gloves from sticks. I had to get rubber glove certified.

    All I have done was rubber gloves my whole life. Then we had instructors that never gloved teach us. And the methods they used were absurd. It was a rubber tree. And I used rubber cover that I have never seen or used. For ten years I have been launching split blankets from my tube. And those bigass insulator covers that fit no place on any truck. I have been in gloving my whole life. Insulate isolate is a good method for steel and cca, and voltages above 5 kv, especiall 19.9. But not 2400 4160 or 4800 delta, on an eighty year old pole dryer than a popcorn fart. I love those pictures where everything is completey covered in orange and its single phase y tangent where its just a pole top pin and clevis. Its getting nuts, the inspector told me to put cover up for lashed armor cable and triplex that are bonded together, I told them they are the same potential. He looked and told me to put some orange up so when a supervisor comes by he sees rubber. I feel your pain Bren so much. I love this trade but the nonsense that goes on is getting ridiculous. I want to retire shortly. Work 6 months a year doing print work, substations and power generation. Distribution sucks. I think every lineman that taugbt me this trade twenty years ago wouldn' t make it today. And they were a 1000% better lineman: better rigging and greater knowledge, especially the farm boy lineman who could polish turds. The computer literate video game playing generation sucks. But they got ten foot tall ego and attitude and 1 inch of skill knowledge and abilitg.

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    We do most of our training in February, but most of it is for management to cover there but. As far a rubber a lot of it is personal up here, I see some guys build a rubber tree, but me if it is well outside of my clearances I won't cover it, for example we have a 10.6' neutral so I never cover the neutral, you just can't be stupid about it. A lot of times I will stick and jib just to avoid a lot of rubber.

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    I have been rubber gloving 27.6 for over 20 years. A good fella will be able to do a lot of work with a handful of rubber , well placed, and relocated as necessary. The schools teach young fellas to use all the rubber they have available, and make dang sure those rubber gloves are on all the time. They don't teach a fella to watch his clearances, or his head , or everything around him. These are lessons I learned way back when. Watching and being aware of your surroundings will allow you to do more with less. Live line work is not the time to flail around like a mad fool rushing to get some small job done, it takes time and a cool head, and awareness.

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