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You wont see how most of us were taught to climb in the video.....the new lineman:( the new way:(...........like it or not:mad: I do like the platform for the instructors though,so thats good........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0M-ZEe6xR8......they call it climbing 101.......Poot.
Didn't look like his fall restraint worked like it was supposed to, as loose as they had them they could have just hitchhiked, also looks like all them fall restraint rigs and multiple safety's will kill a fellow on your average rear lot distribution pole.
Yea....it kind of hurts to see the trade going down the drain from what we knew it as.Certain skills that made a good lineman are all but gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lineman North Florida
If they give you that **** buck squeeze we will just use the rope with it. If they give you the jelco, all the steel and that yellow strap will stay to its unused position. No real lineman will use it! They have been pushing it for ten years, still no one uses it! The government made alcohol illegal did it work, the government made drugs illegal 80 years ago, did it work? You can't enforce stupid rules. And you can't push unenforceable rules! Stupid people push stupid rules from offices!!!!!! An office is not is the work site! It's easy to tell how to do work from an office! These guys who think of this dumb**** need to get on a pole!!!??? You can't make rules if you have never done it!!!! Very un American! Very ignorant! Whoever contrives it and never worked wit those piece of **** fall arrest systems, need to get on a production crew. The industry always want you to do more with less. Guess what the accident rate is the off the charts?!! As a lineman that's not my problem. That's their problem? It's not my problem that they pushed people in this trade and didn't train them. As far as the government pushing stuff, I equate all these devices and the supporters of these devices as equivalent who want gay marriage and those that love the gay lifestyle. Guess what they are gay!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by reppy007
I can almost see skinning knives being banned,there are guys out there that couldnt strip urd wire with a skinning knife.They may not tell the new guys to cut back into the pole.They might say ,dont worry you wont go anywhere cause you have the squeeze.I would never have thought this in 1983-1985....1990 and so on.The trade as we knew it has changed.The basics might not be the basics we knew them to be......guess Ill grab my walking cane and go watch the Houston Rockets loose another game.......Golden State needs to put them out of their misery:oQuote:
Originally Posted by bobbo
I cant remember the last time I was on a pole picking up wire....but I can assure you that I was the only one.Grounds and all.How many of you can remember doing this with two climbers/lineman?Notice......they are free-climbing........nice to see huh?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGiF6mWyo7g
That's a one man job where I'm from Rep.......😉
I thought so...here too.A Jy doesnt need help picking up small wire........wonder if the new linework requires two:nightmare:
I will assume that nobody noticed what the climber does/doesnt do.......to me it shows that he is young ,possible an apprentice........anyone want to take a guess?:D
Trying to find out,though; if line is grounded,why do you still need rubber gloves?And the guys in the bucket,no violation of limits of approach that I saw and no second point of contact but they were still in gloves and sleeves.....
I agree the guys on the pole didn't need rubber gloves, but I didn't see a pole bond, but that doesn't mean it wasn't there. As far as the guys in the bucket some places, ours included require rubbers gloves when live conductor on the pole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hebrew
Good observations,but your not seeing what Im seeing :DQuote:
Originally Posted by lewy
What are you seeing,Reppy?Looks like only the centre and rightside phases are grounded...
I happened to notice that too.......Ok watch the video once more.when the first guy starts climbing near the fence he leaves the handline rolled up....later he is above the neutral and its still rolled up on his belt......some guys may do it that way.Now later in the video,about 1.17minutes into the video there is only 3 ground clamps showing ,and around 1.39-1.42 minutes into the video there is a clamp hanging even though the guy is on the wire.Not a big deal since nobody was hurt,but nobody here pays attention to the handline.....except me:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Hebrew
I had training with the buck squeeze last year, did the obstacle course and all that. Had to climb a few weeks back to cut a drop for a burning house. I really got bogged down trying to get around the phone and cable mess, if you don't practice with these things, it's rough to use the secondary rope and get the buck squeeze unclipped and all that. I got the job done but I'll tell you, I was ready to free climb past all the BS.
Using a buck squeeze once or twice a year is not good. Too many moves and adjustments to remember. I want to get my crew to do some EZ climbing jobs this summer to keep it fresh.
I smell what you stepped in. Before I retired we were going to the squeeze and although I didn't have to use one being a trainer,I could see the trouble guys were having trying to make it work. And I thanked my lucky stars I didn't have to do that, that way anymore. I do think you have a good plan having your crew do some remedial training every so often when the situation presents it's self. Better to get comfortable at it than let your guys get stale and when it counts need to use one.
The lineman I talked to about a week ago had a jelco,I think thats what they call it.But he said he usually free climbs.He works for a contractor.All I know is that if you get hurt falling and work for a utility,you might as well say goodbye to your job if your not using fall protection.Quote:
Originally Posted by in the bucket
Most all the fellas I know use a Jelco pole choker. Its just about the closest thing to using the old pole strap. Since fall arrest has been mandatory here since the '80s, we have all figured out the simplest ways to use it.
Just keep that yellow strap clipped and free climb.Quote:
Originally Posted by rob8210