America's Frist...finally PROUD Lady

[LostArt]

How do we know she isn't doing "good works" Swamp? I'm just asking because usually we don't know things like this (sometimes) until after they leave the white house.

I personally think she spends time with her girls, which is a very good thing. I imagine it's hard to be a full time mother and do the world works deal. Just my opinion.

Now before you go and attack me for "being nice", I'm not to crazy about her myself. I haven't been from the get go. But then again, I don't particularly care for Hillary Clinton either! :D

Times are changing and not always for the good. Twenty years ago you wouldn't have seen women wearing pants in church, muchless jeans, but they do. I'm old skool, I still find it very hard to wear jeans to church. But, that's just me.

Remember appearrances can be decieving. And what looks good could be bad, and what looks bad, might not be so. Just sayin'. This is a very unique presidency. If you say it's not, you are fooling yourselves. And it's also reversed in racism. Yep, I said it boys and I'm sticking to it!

[topgroove]

What you'ld be better off with McCains ***** second wife? Christ that ******* was F^cking that ***** before he divorced his first wife.

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Adultery

For a guy campaigning on family values, John McCain has broken up a lot of marriages. When he met his first wife (a swimsuit model), she was married to naval academy classmate of his. After he broke that marriage up, she stuck by him loyally as he went off to war and was a prisoner for 5 and a half years. When he returned to America, though, he found out that she had been in a car wreck and wasn't as pretty. So he had a series of affairs, by his own admission, and dumped his wife and adopted family for a younger, very rich blond (now Cindy McCain.) Cindy, the daughter of a wealthy Budweiser beer distributor, was addicted to prescription narcotics and even stole hard drugs from a medical charity that she ran. In February, 2008, the New York Times ran a big article about the unusually close relationship between John McCain and a young telecommunications lobbyist named Vicki Iseman (who looks uncannily like Cindy McCain did when SHE was 25). They became so close that his staff, convinced they were having an affair, confronted both McCain and Iseman, telling them to back off. Now, a lot of people have criticized the Times for hinting without actually saying that McCain had sexual relations with that woman. But really, it doesn't matter. It's a matter of record that he accepted money and favors from her, spent a lot of time for her, and did favors for her clients. Among other things, McCain wrote two letters -- from a draft provided by Vicki Iseman -- to the head of the Federal Communications Commission -- which was way out of line, since McCain headed the Senate Commmerce Committee, which controls the FCC. McCain's pressure was so outrageous that, even though McCain was in charge of funding his commission, the FCC commissioner wrote a letter back rebuking him for his interference, at the height of McCain's "ethics in government" campaign.

So, was McCain sleeping with her, hoping to sleep with her, or being subconsciously manipulated by a cute young woman? It doesn't really matter. He was being led by his groin into ethical violations. Let's face it, he was 64 at the time and is 72 now. Whether he is still cheating or not, he seems to be led by his ****; witness the videos of McCain checking out Sarah Palin's butt during the speech where he introduced her.




Founding Member of the Keating 5 Back in the old days, defendants in famous trials got numbers -- the Chicago Eight, the Gang of Four, the Dave Clark Five, the Daytona 500. McCain was one of the "Keating Five," congressmen investigated on ethics charges for strenuously helping convicted racketeer Charles Keating after he gave them large campaign contributions and vacation trips.

Charles Keating was convicted of racketeering and fraud in both state and federal court after his Lincoln Savings & Loan collapsed, costing the taxpayers $3.4 billion. His convictions were overturned on technicalities; for example, the federal conviction was overturned because jurors had heard about his state conviction, and his state charges because Judge Lance Ito (yes, that judge) screwed up jury instructions. Neither court cleared him, and he faces new trials in both courts.)

McCain intervened on behalf of Charles Keating after Keating gave McCain at least $112,00 in contributions. In the mid-1980s, McCain made at least 9 trips on Keating's airplanes, and 3 of those were to Keating's luxurious retreat in the Bahamas. McCain's wife and father-in-law also were the largest investors (at $350,000) in a Keating shopping center; the Phoenix New Times called it a "sweetheart deal."

McCain was not convicted of any crimes, though the Senate concluded that he exercised "poor judgment." (Furthermore, he got off on some charges by a technicality -- that he was still in the House when he took those vacation trips, and so the Senate couldn't prosecute him. The House concluded that THEY couldn't prosecute him because he had moved to the Senate.)


Mafia Ties It's well known that John McCain is rich, because of his marriage to Cindy Hensley McCain, who inherited the biggest Budweiser distributorship in Arizona, which earns $300 million a year, from her father Jim.

What's less well known is the source of that money. Jim Hensley and his brother Eugene worked for Kemper Marley, Sr., who had cornered the Arizona liquor market after Prohibition was lifted, and assigned the Budweiser distributorship to Jim Hensley. Phoenix police named (but never charged) Marley as the man who ordered the infamous assassination of Phoenix reporter Don Bolles in 1976. The man convicted of the murder -- John Adamson -- testified that Marley ordered the hit after a Bolles story forced him to resign from the state racing commission. Bolles was investigating mob ties in Arizona -- and had written about Marley's political and business dealings -- until 6 sticks of dynamite exploded under his car, killing him. Marley sued a coalition of reporters -- formed in response to Bolles' assassination -- for libel after they reported his ties to the mob and to Bolle's murder. The jury ruled that Marley was NOT libeled.

Hensley (Cindy McCain's father) and his brother were convicted in 1948 for falsifying records to conceal illegal sales of thousands of cases of liquor at Marley's firm. Five years later, Jim Hensley was tried for falsifying tax records at Marley's firm, but -- defended by William Rehnquist, who was later Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court -- he was acquitted.

The Hensley brothers also bought a New Mexico horse race track in 1952. A 1953 New Mexico State Police report expressed concern that the Hensleys were tied to Clarence "Teak" Baldwin, a "bookmaker for leading tracks", and added that Kemper Marley "is reputed to be the financial backer for the bookies." The report also stated that Marley "owned a wire service formerly operated in connection with bookmaking of the Al Capone gang." The Hensley's denied that Baldwin had a stake in the track, but 2 years later records showed Baldwin had a one-third stake in the track. Baldwin sued in 1955 over his share, and settled out of court for $40,000 (a lot of money then). Jim sold his share of the track in 1955; Eugene kept his until 1969 and served time for skimming funds from the track for personal use.

Arizona (which borders Nevada) has long had a serious mob presence, with many mafia men retiring there. In 1995, McCain sent birthday regards, and regrets for not attending, to Joseph "Joe Bananas" Bonanno, the "boss of bosses" and head of New York's Bonanno crime family (one of the big 5 families), who had retired to Arizona. Another politician to send regrets was Governor Fife Symington, who has since been kicked out of office and convicted of 7 felonies relating to fraud and extortion. -- Sources (http://www.realchange.org/mccain.htm#mafiasources)



Junkie Wife Cindy McCain, McCain's frighteningly skinny second wife, is quite a presence in his campaign. She is out giving speeches and attacking Barack Obama on ethical grounds. But her only record is far from clean, not even counting the fact that she seduced McCain when he was a married father of four. Cindy and her father -- who have hundreds of millions of dollar from her dad's Budweiser distributorship -- invested in one of convicted banker Charles Keatings projects, even as her husband was helping him fight off bank regulators in the days before Keatings savings and loan went bankrupt. Cindy has refused to release her tax returns, making it impossible to tell what other conflicts of interest she may be hiding.

But most dramatically, Cindy was a serious narcotics addict who created a charity for sick children (American Voluntary Medical Team or AVMT), then used it to get fraudulent prescriptions for Vicodin and Percocet. And a whistleblower from her staff says that John McCain and his senate staffers helped Cindy smuggle her ill-gotten narcotics through customs.

Tom Gosinski was fired from AVMT after expressing concerns about her addiction and habit of writing prescriptions in other people's names to get drugs. He says that John McCain himself got her a diplomatic passport, which prevents customs officials from searching her bags, and his aides Mark Salter and Torie Clarke coordinated with him (Gosinski) on Cindy's logistics for his trips abroad. (Mark Salter is still one of McCain's top aides.) In 1993, Gosinski told the Drug Enforcement Agency that Cindy wrote false prescriptions in his name that year. McCain claims he didn't know Cindy was an addict when he got her a diplomatic passport, but that's hard to believe since she had a stretch in rehab back in 1991. Cindy McCain faced 20 years in prison for obtaining "a controlled substance by misrepresenting, fraud, forgery, deception or subterfuge." With a wealthy father, high-priced lawyer and Senator husband, she got the lightest possible punishment -- charges were dropped in return for her entering rehab. Any regular, much less poor person who had written fraudulent prescriptions, stolen narcotics from a charity and smuggled them around the world would have received several years in prison. Her doctor, for one, lost his license and never practiced again.

[LostArt]

With such heavy posts, I really hate to do this, but for some reason it just fit to quote Groucho Marx. :D

"Behind every successful man is a woman, behind her is his wife."

"Man does not control his own fate. The women in his life do that for him."

"Marriage is a wonderful institution, but who wants to live in an institution?"

"Politics doesn't make strange bedfellows - marriage does."

"There's one way to find out if a man is honest - ask him. If he says, "Yes," you know he is a crook."

"All people are born alike - except Republicans and Democrats."

And my favorite....

"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." Groucho Marx

But then....he was jewish and he married really young women! :D

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And if a man is unfaithfull to his wife what does that say of his character. Apparantly you and swamp would have rather have had a lying ******* married to a drug adict crack *****.

[LostArt]

And if a man is unfaithfull to his wife what does that say of his character. Apparantly you and swamp would have rather have had a lying ******* married to a drug adict crack *****.

HUH?It was comic relief. You guys need to lightnin' up some.

Grove, I personally think they are ALL crooks, liars, adulters, and theives, if you wanted my PERSONAL opinion. I didn't want either one of them in. There is always a choice they say and either way (in my humble opinion) was "dancin' with the devil in the pale moon light."

If you think they are all perfect candidates, you are foolin' yourself. I didn't vote as a Democrat party or as a Republican party. I vote as an American citizen. And I'm not in question here.

You all might enjoy hacking away at our presidency or at each other. I'd like to see a team America, but that's not gonna happen. There are only a few Americans left in these United States. Soon it will be looking for a needle in a haystack for an American. It's just sad that we are all American citizens, but choose to be divided by certain parties. And if I had a choice, being a new citizen in this country to choose a certain party reading these forums or the news, it wouldn't be democratic or republican--that's for darn sure. Too much whinnin' and throwin' blame around instead of trying to find solutions. And the first thing that comes to my mind is starting with Congress. There. Now you can throw some tomatos boys!