Ufc

[west coast hand]

Any ufc fans on hear who's watchin the two big guys get it on july 3rd...I'm taking Brock he will win fairly easy I think...

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Any ufc fans on hear who's watchin the two big guys get it on july 3rd...I'm taking Brock he will win fairly easy I think...

I love watching two big guys get it on. For reelz!

They gonna bang each other up?

They gonna pound each other?

They gonna give 'em the hammer?

I hope the sweaty muscled guy is on top of the other sweaty muscled guy.

The only thing better would be a scissor fight!

BTW Brock's tattoo is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO phallic its re****elus!

Its almost the gayest tattoo ever.

[returntotheeve]

OOOOOh yeah! DRAG racing! Me too!

[west coast hand]

I love watching two big guys get it on. For reelz!

They gonna bang each other up?

They gonna pound each other?

They gonna give 'em the hammer?

I hope the sweaty muscled guy is on top of the other sweaty muscled guy.

The only thing better would be a scissor fight!

BTW Brock's tattoo is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO phallic its re****elus!

Its almost the gayest tattoo ever.


just watched online of his training camp he bench pressed 225 43 times any guy that strong and tough can get any tattoo he wants and I dom't know to many people that would call it gay...LOL

[never_forget_our_brothers]

I hope Carwin smashes that fool Lesnar. The UFC HW division is the weakest its ever been though.

What I cant wait for is to see Fedor fight this Saturday for Strikeforce. Cung Le vs. Scott Smith should be good too. Cyborg will kill her opponent.

[west coast hand]

Fedor sucks he won't come to the ufc because he knows he will get beat by brock and carwin hell i beat even Cain would beat him to. as for the scott smith fight it should be good he is a friend of mine and I talked to him the other day and he said he is ready...carwin will lose he has never faced anybody as big and strong and athletic as brock...the heavyweight division is not weak there are some good guys in there just know one that can beat brock

[never_forget_our_brothers]

Fedor over-rated? LMAO!!!!!!!

Dude you are crazy. He's beat the best in the game time and time again.

Brock has what? 5 fights and he's the HW Champ?

Fedor is NOT scared of the UFC, they would have signed if not for the M-1 deal. They wanted to cross-promote and the UFC didnt want it. Other than that the deal was signed. But I guess the he's scared huh? Dumbest **** I've ever heard.

Everybody said Cro Cop would beat him and he won, everybody said Big Nog would beat him and he couldnt (twice), everybody said Tim Sylvia (multiple UFC HW Champ) could beat him and he couldnt, then it was the same with Arlovski and Rogers. Werdum and Overeem wont be no problem either.

Brocks time is coming when he fights someone as smart and strong as he is.

[west coast hand]

I know about the M 1 ufc deal...but dude straight up fedor would get beatdown if he comes to the ufc and he knows it??? I can name all kinds of guys that would beat him Brock,Cain,Carwin,Mir and if he wants to step down to LHW machida,anderson silva would put him to sleep quick and the way shogun is fighting he would to ,hell even rashad would beat him hes over rated always has been all the guys you said he beat in pride none of them have ever been in the top 5 in the ufc except big tim but he was champ when the HW div was weak and he never was that good anyway when he steps up and fight in the ufc and wins the belt in any div I will say hes the best but until then hes just overrated???

[never_forget_our_brothers]

Umm dude Big Nog has held the belt in the UFC, Arlovski, and Sylvia.

And Rashad Evans could beat him? LMAO! Fedor fights in HW, he is too big to cut over 30 pounds to fight LHW. Mir wouldnt stand a chance. Carwin maybe, but Brock is not technical enough to hang. Cain no way in hell.

He finally lost for the first time in 10 years last night, and Brock will more than likely lose to Carwin next weekend. Fedor could have the UFC HW if he wanted it. But why lose money to fight in the UFC? He's making a ****load more at Strikeforce.

[west coast hand]

Umm dude Big Nog has held the belt in the UFC, Arlovski, and Sylvia.

And Rashad Evans could beat him? LMAO! Fedor fights in HW, he is too big to cut over 30 pounds to fight LHW. Mir wouldnt stand a chance. Carwin maybe, but Brock is not technical enough to hang. Cain no way in hell.

He finally lost for the first time in 10 years last night, and Brock will more than likely lose to Carwin next weekend. Fedor could have the UFC HW if he wanted it. But why lose money to fight in the UFC? He's making a ****load more at Strikeforce.

I told you so he lose last night to a guy that's not even a 10 guy... Cain is better then carwin and next weekend Brock will smash him and then we can see a good fight Cain vs Brock that's a better fight I don't know why so many people like carwin he not that good he has a puncher chance that's it he will get out classed next weekend watch and see

[never_forget_our_brothers]

So what if you told me, like I said its his first loss in 10 years. Brock and Carwin both lack total experience as Brock has like 5-6 MMA fights (which is a joke) and Carwin is not much better.

And to say Fedor looked like a rookie is crazy as well. You obviously have never seen Fedor before he came on free t.v. Just one of those WWF watchers that root for Brock because he came over. We'll see how well he handles someone that is just as strong as he is. He is used to pushing everyone around and lost to a fat, overweight Frank Mir who knee-barred Brock (NOBODY gets leg locked anymore but pansies).

Its painfully clear you have not watched much MMA, especially the PrideFC days and K1.

[west coast hand]

So what if you told me, like I said its his first loss in 10 years. Brock and Carwin both lack total experience as Brock has like 5-6 MMA fights (which is a joke) and Carwin is not much better.

And to say Fedor looked like a rookie is crazy as well. You obviously have never seen Fedor before he came on free t.v. Just one of those WWF watchers that root for Brock because he came over. We'll see how well he handles someone that is just as strong as he is. He is used to pushing everyone around and lost to a fat, overweight Frank Mir who knee-barred Brock (NOBODY gets leg locked anymore but pansies).

Its painfully clear you have not watched much MMA, especially the PrideFC days and K1.






WWF watcher LOL bro I have been in martial arts since I was 5 years old and hold a black belt and train mma daily I have even done some fights in small shows so I been around and I like Brock cause he div 1 national champ and 4 time all American and is a good fighter ya he only has 5 or 6 fights but that don't matter when you have that strong of a wreaking background and I have seen fedor in pride just never cared for him and always thought he was overrated until he wins a ufc title you can't call him the best period..

[never_forget_our_brothers]

This is the weakest the HW division has EVER been in the UFC. To say any different is nut hugging IMO.

All Brock has done in his fights is run and shoot the opponent and lay on them and smother them and punch. If you think he's technical then you might wanna learn alittle about MMA that you know about. Once he fights a man just as strong and big, he'll have to show what kind of MMA skills he actually has, and I think thats very little.

For that matter the UFC should have a Super HW division as he fights above 265lbs. all the time. Fighting guys that are 230lbs. doesnt deserve any recognition either.

So tell me who has Brock beaten to deserve respect? An overage Randy Couture? An overweight and passed over Frank Mir (he hasnt been **** since his motorcycle wreck)? You say Fedor hasnt fought anyone but his resume is 100x better than Brock's. And the UFC is not the only one on the block anymore. Not having their title doesnt mean crap.

[west coast hand]

Come on he got tapped In less then 2 min in the first by a guy that couldn't make it in the ufc,he beats Brett Rogers a guy that was changing tires a wal Mart 3 years ago I would hope he could beat him he did do good in pride but all I'm saying is he has not fought a top 10 guy in along time he beat the pitbull but he is no where near where he was 5 years ago if he came to the ufc there's guy that would beat him...let's just hope he will step up and fight some good guys

[never_forget_our_brothers]

Well lets see....

He is (2-0-1) against Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira who won the first PrideFC HW belt and actually won it twice, and Nogueira also won the UFC HW title as well. His BJJ is 100x better than Werdum's. Yet Fedor won 2 matches and the other was stopped because of a headbutt (accidental). Nogeuira also BEAT Werdum.

He is (1-0) against Mark Coleman who won 2 UFC's and one PrideFC Grand Prix, and won the first ever UFC HW title.

He is (1-0) against Kevin Randleman who won the UFC HW title.

He is (1-1) against Tsuyoshi Kohsaka who won the Pancrace Super HW Title. The loss was when Kohsaka hit him with an illegal elbow that the ref missed. Since the cut was bad enough and Fedor couldnt go on, Kohsaka took his place in the tournament.

He is (1-0) against Cro Cop and went the distance to defend his PrideFC title, back when Cro Cop was actually good and not the ghost he is now.

He is (1-0) against Tim Sylvia who was once an UFC HW champ (in 36 seconds). He won the UFC HW title THREE TIMES! Also defended it twice.

He is (1-0) against Andrei Arlovski who was M-1 MFC-European HW Champ, and won the UFC HW title twice and defended it once.

Losing to Werdum is no joke either. Werdum has only beaten the likes of: Brandon Vera, Gabriel Gonzaga (twice), Aleksander Emelianenko, and Alistair Overeem.

So to say Fedor has fought nobody is pretty much STUPID. He is only (6-0-1) against UFC HW Champs. Not bad for what you call overated. Atleast he EARNED his titles, unlike your boy Brock.

Who has Brock beat? Frank Mir who has been washed up since he returned to fighting, a very undersized and old Randy Couture, and whipping dogs Heath Herring and Min-Soo Kim. 5 fights at he's UFC HW champ, that is who the joke is on.:rolleyes:

[west coast hand]

5 fight or not that guy is a beast and a good fighter that would hurt fedor bad. fedor has not lost in 10 Years tell now but who has he fought in the last 5 that was a 10 guy at that time NO ONE look what Dana is saying about him the ufc 113 replay on spike that night had more views the the fedor fight live that tells you nobody care about him anymore he's stuiped he could have went to ufc got beatdown and still made millions he only made 400,000 grand for that fight Dana offered him over a mill a fight and he said no...Oh well don't look like he will ever fight in ufc now. Which Sucks I like watching him lose I don't dislike him just all the hype that goes with him...If Brock beats carwin sat night there's no way you can't say he's the real deal???

[never_forget_our_brothers]

Umm dude there is NO WAY Fedor was offered millions to fight in the UFC. Even Dana said the contract that was "floating" around the net was not right. The top fighters in the UFC is lucky to top out at 500k so why would he make more? If he truly offered Fedor more every fighter in the UFC would have walked out.

Hell in UFC 115 Chuck Liddell made 500k (still living off his last contract he signed when he was champ). He makes about what the other top fighters make.

And by the way, why do you think Fedor always wants M-1 to co-promote any fight he fights in? Fedor himself is part owner of M-1 Global. That was the main reason Fedor/UFC couldnt come to an agreement. Ever since the fall of PrideFC they have had the M-1 banner in every fight since then. They bankrupted Affliction, and will probably do the same to Strikeforce. Fedor is taking half the gate AND making 400-500k a fight. I'm willing to bet he's worth more than any other fighter out there period. I dont think he cares about being the best, he just wants the money and is getting it.

I still think he's the top HW out there. Hell Dana White threatened TapouT that if they put a T-shirt on Fedor last weekend that they would be banned from the UFC for life. TapouT has been with the UFC since the start and their names are ALWAYS on the stage. All because TapouT wanted to sponsor Fedor. How trashy is that? Why would someone want to work for a p.o.s. like Dana White? TapouT was no threat to the UFC at all. Ever since Fedor turned down the UFC Dana White has tried to kill every promotion and make Fedor's life hell. Kinda sounds like some of the companies we work for huh?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knRj2DGT8Es&feature=player_embedded

i really believe fedor is the best hw, very talented for a big guy. his only weak game is obviously bjj which he got caught in finally. he'll be back stronger than ever.

gsp is well rounded in all aspects with amazing athleticism. he can take the fight anywhere.

the Diaz bros. especially Nick Diaz. he is a warrior and threat to anyone, very well rounded. id like to see him and gsp square off.

been a while since i paid for a ufc card

dont care much for brock and havnt followed carwin. brock to me is just a big muscle bound bully type. very good wrestler though as ive watched some of his college matches on youtube a while back.

my predictions for this card
brock
yoshihiro
lytle
krzysztof
sotiropoulos
petruzelli
reljic
tuchscherer

no opinion on the others.

[never_forget_our_brothers]

Carwin had him, but punched himself out. If he fights smarter, he can beat Lesnar.

I agree GSP, Anderson Silva are all too dominant to lose IMO. Penn WILL come back and beat Edgar. Its hard to say who the dominant is in 205 is the title keeps passing around.

And with Fedor, I agree.

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my predictions sucked.

a while back it looked like leben did a cycle or three and was shredded. his fighting style also had changed and he was looking good. his fights after that he was looking real soft and losing. akiyama, after beating belcher looked promising which is why i went with him.

ever since forrest and bonnar went toe to toe after the tuf show i liked the psyco. he went to the juice and just hasnt been a well rounded fighter which is maybe why he went to the juice to make up for lack of something. the russian krzysztof looked promising from the tuf show.

thought petruzelli would have some confidence after ko'in the kimbo with the slightest touch of the button.

anyhow didnt watch the fights. looks like theres some decent cards coming up.

i think anderson silva is great, however too dominant not so IMO. his striking is very precise. someone will catch him like werdum caught fedor. get a great bjj guy,that can take and return a punch and get it to the ground and i think itl be over. chael has the ability.

always have like bj penn. just a natural born fighter.

[never_forget_our_brothers]

IF Anderson Silva loses IMHO, it would have to be at 205. Of course I didnt think Penn would ever lose at 155 either. Penn will get revenge on Edgar in their next fight for sure.

[west coast hand]

The #1 HW in the world is Brock he weathered the storm and showed well rounded skills with his sub I still think when he had shane mounted he should have G&P'd him but the sub was surprising...like I already said until fedor steps up and throwsdown with some top level guys he's not #1 he has not even fought a top 10 guy in 5 years come on people he not that good maybe he used to be but not anymore...as for penn and edger I'm taking edger don't like penn never have if edger beats him again he will just say they put grease on him or hes on stroids hes a sore loser.(what he said about gsp) as for silva he will win I want to see Shogun vs Silva that would be a barnburner...

[never_forget_our_brothers]

You never fail to amaze me...

BTW, GSP did get reprimanded by the Nevada State Commission about the greasing ordeal. The rest was untrue lies by Penn I agree. But when Penn fights Edgar again we wont have the same result we had in their last fight. That was Penn's first loss at 155 since 2002 to Jens Pulver. It wont happen again.

I still stand on my word about Fedor. He hasnt lost in 10 years until Werdum. He'll show in the rematch that it was a fluke loss. I'll take a loss every 10 years anyday. Thats what proves who is the best. Say what you want but he has fought some of the best in that time period. He's only (6-0-1) against EX-UFC CHAMPS! But I guess that means nothing huh? You say the best fought in the UFC and he's beat every UFC champ he's ever faced. Even your own argument proves he is the best. Who has Brock fought? Even Carwin was an unknown as he hasnt fought top ten talent either.

[west coast hand]

You never fail to amaze me...

BTW, GSP did get reprimanded by the Nevada State Commission about the greasing ordeal. The rest was untrue lies by Penn I agree. But when Penn fights Edgar again we wont have the same result we had in their last fight. That was Penn's first loss at 155 since 2002 to Jens Pulver. It wont happen again.

I still stand on my word about Fedor. He hasnt lost in 10 years until Werdum. He'll show in the rematch that it was a fluke loss. I'll take a loss every 10 years anyday. Thats what proves who is the best. Say what you want but he has fought some of the best in that time period. He's only (6-0-1) against EX-UFC CHAMPS! But I guess that means nothing huh? You say the best fought in the UFC and he's beat every UFC champ he's ever faced. Even your own argument proves he is the best. Who has Brock fought? Even Carwin was an unknown as he hasnt fought top ten talent either.


He may have beat ex ufc champs but not when they were in there prime none of them he fought them after the ufc had cut them...this is something we will never agree on and fedor won't probaly ever fight in the ufc so we will never find out so there for he will never be the best and yes edger will do it again...and dude theres no way fedor would have weathered the storm brock did against carwin fedor would have went to sleep...fedor had the chance but declined fighting brock for over a million dollars unstead he went to strike force for 400,000 a fight what a idiot or scared say what you want but #1 right now is big brock look it up on any mma website even if fedor wins the rematch so what,what's that prove nothing.he ducks fighting the best atless he has for the last 5 years anyway come on dude rodgers almost beat him...back in the pride days he was badass I'll give you that but since then he has ducked fighting top notch guys its a fact

[never_forget_our_brothers]

Rodgers almost beat him? ROFLMAO! Now you are a comedian!!!

That fight wasnt even close, and Fedor put him to sleep. And you need to check your facts, even DANA WHITE said he didnt offer Fedor over a mil per fight! Thats a FACT! There is no way he would offer Fedor TWO TIMES the amount of his top fighters, NO WAY! Every fighter would have walked out on him if true. So you can stop the 1 mil a fight because its simply not true.

Hey I'll give Brock some credit, he is getting there. He showed alot of poise, but to say both are better than Fedor at this point is crazy. Fedor would have choked Carwin well into the 1st and would have never been crazy enough to stand with Carwin. Brock almost learned that just a few minutes into the fight. I'm becoming somewhat of a fan as Brock was truly humble this time and not an idiot like his last fight against an overweight and fat Frank Mir. Almost dying will do that to you. http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5353703&categoryid=2378529

You want to look at rankings? Before Fedor lost he was #1 on Sherdog (with Werdum #2 BTW in their latest rankings), and was #1 on MMA Weekly until the loss as well (and Werdum is #2 there too) so yea I have the facts to back up my talk, where are yours?

Brett Rogers is still in the top ten on MMA Weekly's site. So how are these guys so highly rated? Brock has only fought 2 on their top ten, while Fedor has fought 3! http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/topten.asp?articleid=16&zoneid=15

[west coast hand]

Heres a list of fedors last 10 fights

werdum-loss loved watching it

rogers-win a guy that has been in mma 3 years before the fight...

arlovski-win a fight he was lossing until he caught him he would have never beat the arlovski of 5 years ago

sylvia-win he was never that good anyway

hong man choi-win he was getting his ass beat until he got a choke

lindland-win come on hes a middlewieght

hunt-win hes a fat guy thats slow and has no groundgame

coleman-win he beat a 40+year old coleman

wagner da conceicao martins-win never heard of him???

cro cop-win if he ko'd him on the feet i would give you credit but come on cro cop has no ground game...

the best guy on that list is cro cop and pat berry should have beat him but he didn't finish him when he could have...Mir or Carwin would beat anybody on that list and Brock beat both of them...

[never_forget_our_brothers]

LOL that post is so retarded I wont even say anything else. Like I said I have the links to back me up that PROVE where the fighters are ranked. You've seen what the top MMA sites think about his opponents. His road has proven 100x more tough than Brock's few fights.

[west coast hand]

LOL that post is so retarded I wont even say anything else. Like I said I have the links to back me up that PROVE where the fighters are ranked. You've seen what the top MMA sites think about his opponents. His road has proven 100x more tough than Brock's few fights.


LOL all you want but any mma website has brock ranked #1 retard bottem line is that was the first real good BJJ black belt he fought since big nog and look what happened tapout in less then 2 min ride that bandwagon all you want but when him and werdum fight again he will lose again and I'll bet on it...

[never_forget_our_brothers]

Well west coast I'll give you props on the Penn/Edgar rematch. Did you watch it last night? If not, it was same as the first fight. Penn never tried any takedowns and the only punches he would throw were counter-punches. I've never seen him fight twice in a row like that. It looked like himself years ago when he didnt have the drive to fight before he moved back to 155. He didnt look to be in great shape and was wore out in the 5th. We all thought Edgar won all 5 rounds and all judges scored 50-45 as well. Edgar was in tip-top shape and I hear that Gray Maynard will get Edgar next. Maynard dominated Florian which surprised me as well. I thought Florian would be able to take him but that fight wasnt close either.

The main reason I bought the fight though was to watch Couture/Toney. I loved hearing Toney talk all that smack that boxers were "so much better" than MMA fighters I just laughed my ass off. He had no idea what he was getting himself into and it showed. If you didnt see it Toney was DOMINATED! Within about 45 seconds Couture shot in with a double leg and Toney just flopped on his back (you could tell he didnt try to train to defend takedowns) and Couture straight ground and pounded him then hit him with an arm triangle that Toney could not defend. Easy win in the 1st. Then when interviewed Toney sounded like he spoke a different language and we couldnt even understand what the hell he said. I'd be surprised to see him back unless he gets a guarantee that he fights someone who will stand up only like say a Cro-Cop or someone else. He claims he wanted Brock after he beat Couture but even if he won Brock would straight dominate him.

But other than the Couture fight the card SUCKED! There is not much coming down the pipe lately in terms of good fights. We watched Strikeforce last week and it sucked, with King Mo losing his belt at 205. I havent even heard good rumors about another fight with Strikeforce.

Oh yea the idiot called Nate Diaz won too then called out the 155 pound division calling them weak. I think Edgar would dominate Diaz as well.