Training

[Pootnaigle]

Recently had a journeyman complain that he was being used to train apprentices to do hot work and wasnt being compensated for it. I always thought that was part of a journeymans job. Given this guys piss poor attitude I bleve he is lucky to have a job............. Am I missing something here?

[ratbastard101]

Recently had a journeyman complain that he was being used to train apprentices to do hot work and wasnt being compensated for it. I always thought that was part of a journeymans job. Given this guys piss poor attitude I bleve he is lucky to have a job............. Am I missing something here?

The sorry ass must have forgetten that he once was in the same shoes his apprentices are. Its amazing how quick some forget that at one time there were still wet behind the ears and green in the gills. If he is too sorry to train an apprentice fire his behind.

I know some may jump hot over it but I have to ask.....Is this a union lineman doing the complaining??? :rolleyes:

I always took a lot of pride in helping, showing, and teaching those that I could. Training/teaching others just comes more natural to some than others I guess. I still say get rid of him though.

[koca]

Looked it up its in the job description, seems pretty simple, somebody trained me, I help train someone else, they train another and so on. This way knowledge is passed from one person to another createing a well trained work force and bettering our trade.

[T-Man]

I agree with Koca you gotta give some back and do a good job because you could be relying on this fella to watch your back and he better be on the ball. We all watch each other it's part of the deal. I say train your apprentice well, the more he knows and can do the better it is for everyone on the crew.

[LINCRW]

I don't know your relationship to the guy who is complaining, but if you could, just tell him when he can pick up his last check.

[Daddyof2]

I was just wondering if this joker come into this world doing linework. Last I checked you could only become a journeyman by learning the trade from other journeymen.

[old lineman]

I'd be the first one to say that formal training is absolutely necessary.
In our neck of the woods it takes 4 years of apprenticeship to become a power lineman (journeyman). That's 2 weeks of classroom each year.
It's designed to get the basics and theory.
When the apprentices return to their utility the are mentored by the existing linemen.
That's when the blanks get filled in.
Can you imagine what the apprentice would learn if no one was willing to show him how's it's done?
All the schooling in the world would never fully equip a newbie with the knowledge he needs.
A good lineman is an invaluable source of information.
Honestly I don't think there is a place in this trade for a selfish SOB that won't help his co-worker/brother and maybe someday day his saviour.
If I knew a better way to do something and it's a safe way I would be proud to help a buddy out.
This guy is NOT a team player.
Remember there's no "I" in team.
If you can influence the higher ups turf his sorry ass.
The Old Lineman

[wtdoor67]

There is one here that claims to be self made. Very rare.

[Stinger]

JL= Just learning. It is or jobto teach our yougones. That goes whether you are union or non-union. I've been in the trade for awhile- There still thing I do not know and am always willing to learn new things. We all come from different areas of the country, what we do in one area may be completley different from another. Thats where we get rounded out from different experiences.and sharing them with our brothers.

[Edge]

I got hopes that even after I'm dead and gone I'll still be doing linework...the same way some of the old cats that taought me are still doing it even though they are gone... every time I clip in wire or dead end a structure... every time I decide to tie a double sheet bend instead of a square knot... it's some thing one of those old dudes did that was passed on to me...
and hopefully I'm doing the same...
A lot of JL's are scared to pass on their knowledge not because the feel it's sacred or any thing but because they are scared that once the youngin's learn what they know the company won't need the old man anymore... thats a dumb ass way of thinking... I try to train or teach the youngin's every thing I got and hell even pay attention them... yeah never know when they might have an idea and it works... I also encourage them to use what they know to come op with creative soultions to what their doing... think outa the box... it will make them better in the long run...
the thing that pisses me off the most is these old JLs that are scared to teach cuz they think that they may be working for that young buck one day... well that **** can happen anyway... don't you want to at least to be working for some one that actually knows WTF he's doing?
Training apes is every Journeymans job... tell him to get his **** straight...

For what its worth...

Edge