Where are the members that used to post here?? [Archive]

Alan Mac

11-18-2007, 12:56 PM

Very true, we don't have much O/H in the cities. Get out of the cities and it's everywhere.

I've been to nearly all the countries in Europe (I used to be able to say all but a couple more joined this year). We went to the USA last year for the first time, drove 8500 miles and never saw the coast. Been to Canada too. We are on a small island here, but they it's not size that matters.

True, many of our poles are imported (some from Scotland).

I know where the word bollocks comes from.

Time to go check out the latest situation. Scotland has it's own parliament, and first minister. I'll let Clive give us an update on the rest. And yes, Scotland is still under the same Queen as England - but guess what - SO IS CANADA!

LostArt

11-18-2007, 02:44 PM

Bollocks. From us--- YOU ALLs, we call it feeding us a line. "Feeding us a line of bull." But the most common is the word bull****.

Bull****>bollocks

Atleast on this side of the Americas. :D

RWD

11-18-2007, 03:22 PM

Inferiotiry complex?

Regardless of your rant. Not all power is on poles. As a lineman I have, Strung Christmas tree lights for the city, I have changed out lightbulbs on towers, I have spliced low voltage conductors in a ditch, Changed out bulbs in a ball field, I have actually used a bucket truck once or twice too. Clive brings a real positive outlook to this board as well as a good and unique perspective and attitude .... Do you CL?

He also tends to accept people from where ever they are from.... Do you? Or do you look at all people through the cracks in the maple leaf and try to judge them by your own experiances? Rather than accepting that different, does not mean it's wrong.

My mother would be ashamed for Canada. She took the broad look and saw the world through the eyes of a teacher and traveler. She died an American from the "United States of America" but she traveled and lived in europe Central America, and the USA. She chose the USA and loved it as fervently as you seem to love Canada. Why knock someone for being who they are?

Please tone it down. Have fun! If you can't please take your toys and go home. We have plenty of our own toys here in the sand box.

BTW I'm glad you were able to find reference to Plexiotomy. I've used it since around 1984 and most folks miss the point.

RWD

RWD

11-18-2007, 03:38 PM

Umm m Yank is not a term that applies to me. Sorry. I don't really think it's derogatory though. Yankee is a term for Northeasterners. I don't do that "Ya'll" thing either. Thats a southeastern thing. But then you don't speak French as a native language either do you?

Without going too far, I'd only mention that if you've got a ****ty attitude perhaps you should wipe a little better.

A linemans attitude is not mean and condicending, it's frank and straightforward. It's not "who am I going to screw today, it's how much can I get accomplished with what I have today."

As for wide open spaces ..... been there done that .... They did not even have t-shirts in the places I went.

RWD

Bigheadnc

11-18-2007, 05:47 PM

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RWD

11-18-2007, 06:41 PM

I retired my IBEW "A" card in 1990 whem I went to work overseas training engeneers and linemen. I taught powerline design and construction for many years.

CL .... Well it's not worth it. Have fun in your little world.

RWD :)

BigClive

11-18-2007, 06:58 PM

Anyway, as I was saying. It's whimpering little trolls like CL that probably put the real linemen off posting to the forum due to the risk of being subjected to the infantile rants that seem to be emanating from Canada at the moment.

Yes, I'm what you guys seem to refer to as a "narrowback". Here's what this narrowback has done in his working life which has been solid from leaving school at 16 some 26 years ago.

I started off doing a full electrical apprenticeship in construction and engineering predominantly in Scottish steelworks like the Clydesdale and Ravenscraig works. The company I worked for was responsible for ALL the power distribution within the huge steelworks from the distribution rooms and transformer chambers to the furnaces and cranes. Because of the industrial nature of the location the cabling tended to run in underground tunnels and was a mixture of primary, secondary and DC. When it entered the steelworks it was routed around the equipment on heavy ladder rack and where there was a risk of splashing with molten steel it was protected by 1/2" thick steel plates. In short, the work was harder, heavier and more dangerous than you are ever likely to see in your vanilla lineman career in Canada.

Then as time progressed I moved to the more technically involved stuff. Do you know what a PLC (programmable Logic Controller) is CL? What about a ladder-logic schematic for industrial control gear?

These days my employment is an eclectic mix of mechanical erection, high current electrical plant, maintenance of every aspect of control systems to electronic component level and even a bit of software writing in machine code for my own control systems.

I've spent the last five weeks up in a bucket putting up steelwork and wiring in the Christmas lights around Scotland's largest city, a job which I enjoy a lot.

I've just been in discussion about work with Maersk with the possibility that I'll be attending training to become a ships electrician on their state of the art container ships since I have the wide ranging technical skills to handle that type of work

That's just scratching the surface of my career so far....

What about yours CL? Do you have a career other than whining?

Pootnaigle

11-18-2007, 08:51 PM

Canadian Lineman:
It appears to me that youre kinda quick to pull the trigger on a feller.Its obvious that youre a young lineman probably full of piss and vinegar and thats not a bad thing but You need to learn that you can learn from people other than linemen. Clive is most certainly knowledgeable whether he is a lineman or not. Regardless of his trade he has spent many hours learning what he has attempted to share with you.And as far as your remarks concerning older retired linemen I bleve you would be better served keeping your ignorant mouth shut. To answer the main question on this thread I spect the older fellers who usta post like d brown wouldnt have a thing to say to a misfit like yourself. Your threads are full of bashing and thats not at all what the IBEW is about it more about mutual respect and you need to learn a little about that.

RWD

11-18-2007, 09:09 PM

CL is either having a lot of fun at his own expense or he is lost in his own wilderness. CL lets hear your story, Give us some real line bull.

I'll tell a little of mine for the fun of it. Just minor details mind you.

Grew up in Idaho.

US Navy Seabees. Built line in Spain, Alaska, Korea and Japan as a Seabee. 5 years active.

Construction hand 1984-1986 Worked Idaho, Colorado, Nevada, Wyoming, Utah, and California.

86-90 Worked as a lineman for a Co-operative in Utah Colorado. IBEW 969 Grand Junction Colorado. Left as a foreman to work overseas.

90-97 International Programs division NRECA IPD (National Rural Electric Co-operative Assn. International Programs Division.)

Worked El Salvador, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Columbia, Costa Rica, Bolivia, Uruguay, Bahamas, and Dominican Republic. Lived in El Salvador.

97-present. Idependent businessman. Currently assisting part time (as a lineman and trainer) in Sudan Africa starting an electric Co-operative form Scratch. (Now living in North Carolina) See other post to get filled in. (Sudan a letter home) It's even got a few pictures so reading is optional.

Thanks, But I'm having fun and the "Star Dust" is all mine. Along with the scars and the bad food.

RWD

Bull Dog

11-18-2007, 09:45 PM

Ill put my two cents in. There are some arrogant guys on here and on every job site. Its simple real linemen just don't answer them till they smarten up. Some fellas take a long time to get this through their thick skulls. Nothing worse than a little knowledge.

Stick-it

11-18-2007, 10:27 PM

CL obviously has a lot of personal issues. If anyone here cares for him you need to do anything you can to get him to seek some professional help. I can not stand to see someone live with the misery he is constantly dealing with. Deep down I suspect his anger is not toward us but rather himself. It takes a big man to come to this realization. CL, it's ok to cry. Let it out.

LostArt

11-18-2007, 10:36 PM

RWD

I'm just a simple lineman, done some distribution, U/G and OH, a little transmission with a few contractors and a couple of utilities. Nothing special, still learning. Nothing near as lofty as your experience.

But I am a lineman, qualified.

Sorry, I never hung Christmas Tree Lights, but I hold out hope that I may achive it ...... someday.

Since this thread was towards members that use to post here, how about reading about those that are still posting here. And here is just a little bit of what RWD does and has been doing lately.

http://www.powerlineman.com/lforum/showthread.php?t=2942

And that is his last trip. He went last year also.

Just putting up Christmas lights, huh? My husband has also "just put up lights" in the UF football stadium too. And I know he is a lineman. He has done URD and OH..........climbed and been in the bucket.

I don't mind a little bit of ribbing, but CL.........you don't even read about what some of these linemen do. All I've seen you do is dish on the US and now on regular linemen.

I know some of these gentlemen that you have been dishing on. They hold my respect not because they are linemen, but because they are gentlemen that take pride in what they do everyday.

I don't understand why you do it. I don't understand your hate. Honestly? I'm starting to feel sorry for you. It's all seeming so desperate and hateful.

LostArt

11-18-2007, 10:45 PM

And finally the woman speaks. All this lineman knowledge overwhelms me. Lady, you know less about linework than Clive.

Where are the real linemen???

I know a gentleman when he writes and you show no respect.........even for those in your trade. So, I'm sure you show no respect to a lady.

Koga

11-18-2007, 11:08 PM

a lot longer than you with your mouth and attitude.

Koga

Alan Mac

11-19-2007, 03:22 AM

OK, I got too much time on my hands. I just had a quick look through CLs history. Of the 8 threads he's started, they're all in the politics and BS forum. Of 185 posts, 7 have been in the linework forum, one in safety meeting, accidents and near misses and 1 in apprentices and wannabes. Of those nine posts, four were possibly useful comments, and five were putdowns. The rest are all here in the politics and BS area.

That's why he don't here much talkin' 'bout linework.

Got to go to work now, another day in the spacer trolley awaits.

Mac

P.S. I only put that last bit in so he could hear about some linework.

RWD

11-19-2007, 11:43 AM

Swamp can I join your club ... Please ... Please...

As for CL I'm now wondering .... Can anyone confirm that "A" he is from Canada, and "B" that he is a lineman. It would be nice to see if he is real or someone crowing behind a mask.

CL you have such a broad and well rounded past in linework that I'm sure you can at least give us the number of your IBEW Local. If you are not proud of your past how can you look forward to a proud future.

Little Beaver .... do you know this person?

L.A. I don't guess he knows you either. I'd be proud to have you on my crew ... but I'm sure the boss would not let that slide. I'm sure that with your astute apptitude you would surpass most of the wanna be's on this site and actually look better on the pole.

RWD

BigClive

11-19-2007, 01:12 PM

Got to go to work now, another day in the spacer trolley awaits.

Mac

Lucky you. Is it a powered version or the type you have to drag along yourself? Well worth putting a bit of extra sag in just to see you trying to get back up to the next pylon. :D

BigClive

11-19-2007, 01:25 PM

RWD

I'm just a simple lineman,

Sorry, I never hung Christmas Tree Lights, but I hold out hope that I may achive it ...... someday.

Well that explains that then.

You really should do Christmas lights sometime. It might make you all happy and less bitter.

Look. I made a Christmas light up specially for you!

http://www.emanator.demon.co.uk/xmas.jpg

Would you like to try it for size?

Oh and by the way... I could achieve your level of work expertise in the time it took to do a formal training (three years?). You can NEVER achieve my level of technical expertise. :cool:

Stick-it

11-19-2007, 09:20 PM

[QUOTE=CanadianLineman;36797]You know, it's kinda interesting here. Lots of trash talk about my country. Seems everyone wants a go.

Now you senile old *******, you will probably hijack this thread just like you hijack every other threads topic to promote your twisted hatred of almost everything except your convoluded idea of what you think politics should be.
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Most aren't trashing your country. They are trashing you. You wonder why people don't like you? Look at your posts.

Looks like the USA is being trashed by ??????????????? Of course CL. The instigator. What's the dollar worth? Don't say, it will just ruin all of our days.

Looks to me like you are the one who hijacks threads to start your rants. For you to call anyone agitator is like a dumbass calling someone stupid.

I don't agree with Swamp on a lot of things. He, however, does not resort to personal attacks like you do. He, unlike you, can actually participate in an adult conversation. One thing we probabally do agree on. CL is a douche bag.

Stick-it

11-19-2007, 10:30 PM

So, Swamp called you an agitator. He is right and you know it. YOU are the one who started with the personal attacks. YOU are the one who has taken the battle to a third grade level. You DO insult. You DO agitate. And you still can't hold an adult conversation. We are just replying to you in a way you will understand. i.e. your level. You have now invented the e-tantrum. An ongoing one at that. Keep it up. It makes you look really smart.

Alan Mac

11-20-2007, 03:04 AM

Lucky you. Is it a powered version or the type you have to drag along yourself? Well worth putting a bit of extra sag in just to see you trying to get back up to the next pylon. :D

We don't use the motorised trolleys Clive, I saw one last year and they're huge and about five time the weight. With long spans and tall towers, and fourteen stone (just under 200 pounds) plus gear and spacers in the trolley, going uphill can get tiring on the arms after a few spans. We usually drop a rope and let the ground staff sweat a bit. Longest span I did a few years ago. Line tower had a big extension and the next was a D30, a right little dumpy thing. Trolley slid for the first two spacers with the brakes locked on and by midspan the guys on the ground could touch the trolley on the bottom phase. I was the lightest on the gang in those days so I rode the top wire. Those days are gone ;->

Mac

BigClive

11-20-2007, 04:29 PM

I was the lightest on the gang in those days so I rode the top wire. Those days are gone ;->

Mac

Too many pies? :D

Ed the sock

11-20-2007, 06:20 PM

Please ignore this a$#hole he does not speak for other Canadians using this site he is probably from quebec and you all know about the french

LostArt

11-20-2007, 07:25 PM

I find it more interesting to see Ed the Sock post. You have been a member since 4-9-2004 and this is your first post? :eek:

Now, THAT is interesting stuff. :D

Alan Mac

11-21-2007, 02:49 AM

Too many pies? :D

You ain't wrong there Clive. My mate says if he ever hears of a Ginsters lorry being held up on Crimewatch, he's gonna give them my name.

Mac

BigClive

11-21-2007, 09:41 AM

You ain't wrong there Clive. My mate says if he ever hears of a Ginsters lorry being held up on Crimewatch, he's gonna give them my name.

Mac

For some reason I think "Dorset" and steak and ale pie comes to mind.

That's the peril of outdoor work. It kinda gives you an appetite.

I'm not sure if Dorset has been infiltrated by Greggs yet, but they have a shop right next to where my Portacabin is in Glasgow City Centre during the winter months. It's very hard to resist their lardy pasties when you've been bolting up steelwork all day. Between their sausage rolls, steak-bakes, sausage and bean pasties, cheese and onion pasties, Cornish pasties and of course bridies, it's a struggle to eat sensibly.

Then after work I invariably pop onto a local pub for a cider then fall asleep mid-pint only to be woken up repeatedly by the bar staff. I guess there must be some legality about not letting customers fall asleep in a pub.

CenterPointEX

12-21-2007, 08:59 AM

On the subject of this thread... The narrow backs were complaining because Lineman were doing work inside the Petro Chemical Plants here on the Gulf Coast in Texas... They said we did not have licenses to do electrical work... Well, the State looked at what we were doing... realized we were elections working without liscense... and in lue of running us out of the plants, they grandfathered us an electrical liscense... Now I proudly hold a Lineman Ticket... and also a State electrical lincense... Now what narrowbacks?...

upntheair

12-22-2007, 06:17 AM

Haven't posted on the site for a while, and reading the vile infantile rants from you CL, I guess like a lot of others that's the reason.
Maybe you should start your own site and write a blog of all your twisted thoughts somewhere that other ****wits can read them.

dirtdobber

12-22-2007, 10:02 AM

I was reading a few of the older posts on this thread and fell down with laughter at your expense you have got to be an idiot.if for one second you do not think you are an agitator try readin all your posts you try an trash all americans.then you make coments about narrow backs yes I tease them to but not the way you do it.what your computer runs on high voltage oh sorry thats correct you are a jack of all trades and you built your home from ground up you have your own powerplant out back also.**** I have actually found EINSTEINS reincarnation.:eek:

BigClive

12-22-2007, 10:16 AM

Yup, CPEX, pretty much what I know, but you can always tell a narrow back. It won't do much good though cause they ain't smart enough to listen. They don't last long when the voltage gets over 240 v live, either way.

And likewise you can always tell a lineman. He's the one standing next to a control panel full of contactors, PLC's, VVVF motor drives and various other electrical components, holding the drawings upside down with a sorry expression on his face. :D

RWD

12-23-2007, 06:29 PM

Ask him to stop in again and see what he thinks of your end of the conversations here.

Your attacks are more prevalent than conversation and your opinions show ignorance and the inability to think as an individual.

Good luck with his answere.

RWD

PA BEN

12-23-2007, 06:31 PM

Again about 2 years ago started to become a structure where insults, squabbling and bullying by a few individuals with nothing but a political agenda has ruined the site.

The truth comes out why you like this site so much:eek:

PA BEN

12-23-2007, 07:36 PM

The truth comes out why you like this site so much:eek:
Your line god you spoke so highly of must have been talking about you CL. "A" Out of your 288 posts only 14 were not in Politics and BS "A". And all 9 of your threads you started were in Politics and BS. "A":eek:

PA BEN

12-23-2007, 08:05 PM

I see, Bennie, you have taken a page from the Swamprat Self Appreciation Society in that you too have taken to quoting yourself.

O your to good. "A":D

loner

12-23-2007, 08:50 PM

canadian lineman,they all got sick and tired of one guy offering to blow everyone and the other guy trying to convince all of us of how great he is.

RWD

12-23-2007, 08:59 PM

CL is trying to convince all he is a line "God"

Who's offering to blow every one? I missed that one.

RWD

RWD

12-23-2007, 10:53 PM

While I and others know what you mean .... other countries don't like us calling the USA "America"

America runs from Canada to Uruguay.

Those who hate the states will be the first to call us bigots and nationalists. When they spit that at me I mention what many don't know. USA stand for the "United States of America" if they don't like what we call ourselves .... What should we use? It goes over most Zelots heads but those who think about it honestly, realize American is not a bad idea.

RWD

RWD

12-24-2007, 01:04 PM

Perhaps I misconstrued the word. To me a fanatic is one who adhears to a beleif with out true experiance or knowledge, looks away from any other information that does not meet thier opinion, and is unwilling to give creedence to any other who may have a different or opposing view.

I guess I am not as educated as I thought!

RWD

RWD

12-24-2007, 04:04 PM

Have run into this issue all over Central and South America. When you ask them what we should be called they either insult us or really think about it and say ... "I guess you are Americans"

It's one of the tools used by Anti American people to get others who have no opinion to follow thier lead. Once you give the "Unthinking Latin populace" something to think about they actually realize there is not other "Non-insult" word that fits.

Our problems with folks overseas have less to do with who we are and what we do than a whole lot of people who are mis-informed ... intentionally by thier own politicos and other hate mongers who want to focus the general publics eyes off them and on a common enemy.

Once you talk to them they actually realize the issue is internal to thier own country not ours. Education.

RWD

RWD

dirtdobber

12-27-2007, 07:11 PM

cl. your just a little boy that has nothing else to do in life but agitate others what your wife leave you for an AMERICAN REAL MAN or what.I have figured you out some time ago your just a grunt tryin to be a real man and the only way for you to feel better after gettin your ass slamed by journeymen lineman is to get on here and run your alligator mouth.bit of caution for ya do not let your alligator mouth over load your butterfly ass boyyyy!:eek: