centerpointEx

[CenterPointEX]

Well I'm back ifn anyone cares. California is full finally. Instead of 40 standing calls there is 70 standing lineman last friday. Not a good time to drag. dunno know whats goin on. Maybe them FE boys is out here n got the books loaded up. Found out Tim W is working on DWP property also doing asbestos work but hav'nt contacted him yet. Freddy came back n is in Perris yard with Hink McCoy. When Ya coming JR that trailer is gonna rust before ya get it out here. Darrel is out yet in Anaheim. When ya sign the book at 47 tell em Darrel Foley sent ya n make their day. Did ya gve PD that kiss for me Ron... Wify is cummin out to visit on the 28th... N I'm gonna get me sum... Cain't wait... I miss you 66 boys xxxooo blow me one will ya?

[LostArt]

Always good to hear from the webfooted blog. Wondered if you could find your way through traffic. Just think of this as another feat you have accomplished. Your last few words remind me of another old tune that you might very well remember during your clubfooted days...........

"Feel like makin' love..........."

[CenterPointEX]

Talked to Preston... He's happy wit the St. Light Gig n wants no part of kicking a pole in the easement. I was trying to get him to join me, cause... um, I'm out of cigs? My little brother James made out to Diego, he's a 20yr man... 38 n gettin ready to let Unca Sam take care of him as in retired? Guess what... , they are calling for rain tomorrow... I still ain't got in a full week out here... May have to go back to Houston to get up some funds so I can keep living out here... Not!, They do pay pretty good.
Anyhow get back to ya soon with more details L.A.
n thanks to you I cain't get that song out of my head... XXXOOO
but thats ok cause I got one hell of a visual to go with it.

[LostArt]

The cost of living is pretty high over yonder, huh? Do you find any changes in the work? Do they do anything different than what you are use to? And just how do you like being a perverted-----------I mean converted rat contractor? Heh.
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For some reason I have the song, "........draggin' the line, **in her lower voice** ....draggin' the line........" stuck in my head.

Btw, you better be thinking of a place for you and the wifey to stay EX. She ain't gonna take a shine to the barracks. And McDonald's just aint gonna work either! :D

xxxoooo
LA

[CenterPointEX]

L.A. I Got that all took care of... I got a little bed n breakfast staked out up on a hill overlooking the pacific... on being perverted er um I mean converted... It has its pros n con's... back at the light company I had 5 weeks of vacation, sick time, free tools, top notch equipment to work with, n I showed up at the same place for twenty years... The down side was they owned my a$$, I pretty much lived by thier whims. I got to go to my corner for free time ever once in a while but for the most part they owned my a$$.
The up side of tramping if you will is... let me see ... what do you call it...
Oh yea ... FREEDOM. Ifn ya don't like the man, drag n find a new gig... anywhere ya want. Need a vacation... save you pennies n drag. Ya I miss the rain days cabbed up playing poker n gettin paid. But ifn I stayed at the Light Company it would have been a long time before I got to see CAlifornia.. I'm thinking about a gig in Alaska a fella told me about next. It's like I get to go hang out in Alaska and get paid big money while I'm there... How cool is that? When I do that gig the boys want to come up n hang out a while in the summer. I'm gettin giddy... only three wake ups n a ride to the airport...

[CenterPointEX]

Oh ya the cost of living... gas is 1.85, A big cup of starbucks is 1.80 just like it is in Houston... but the kicker is a modest four bed house is half a million... Folks are gettin interest only loans an praying the market goes up instead of down lest they be smoked liak a samon. Put that in your pipe n smoke it stockholders...

[LostArt]

Heh. Yeah, there is some freedom to being a converted rat, I suppose. The boss did that for over 20 yrs, hasn't seen the world yet, but he doesn't seem to be interested in flying or driving. He use to drive hundreds of miles a day. It got old. And for 12 yrs that was all he did being a supervisor. Being a super for a contractor ain't all thrills. You are a certified grunt and a bonafied whine listener. On the phone all day, get home, and on the phone til bedtime.

Now at the utility, he goes in, does what he is suppose to do. Comes home, kicks back in the recliner, grabs the remote, and you know what? That phone rarely rings now. I guess it's all in how you look at it.

But, now I can travel some. If he ain't goin', I'm goin' without him. I went to San Diego last September and loved the dry weather. Daughter asks if I'd like to go to Hawaii next. Uummmm................let me think about that........
Oh duh.

Where is the Bed and Breakfast located? There were a few in Carlsbad. Nice there on the beach.

[CenterPointEX]

It's a private party L.A., you caint come...
I figured that's why ya wanted directions.?
We got rained us out again,... Quack! Will I ever get a full week in?
Allan Reese died. I was gonna try to make it back to Alief, but it would have cost me the wife's flight out here n my last min flight back n missing a days work all toll it would cost me a grand so I reckon thats one of the disadvantages of trampin. Life back home goes on without ya. My last post put another song in my head L.A.
"Freedom's just another word for.. nutin else to loose.. Nothing.. ain't worth nutin... but its free----=."
JR, Tell Robert it's everything he hoped n dreamed of

[LostArt]

Okay! It's a private party! Heh. Smarty britches.

Janis Joplin. Nice choice. After your private party remark, I've thought of a tune......"One is the loneliest number that you'll ever be. Two, is just as bad as one, but the loneliest number is the number one...."

Sorry to hear of your loss EX.

[LostArt]

A pic I took in California last September near Oceanside. Do these lines look familar? Heh. How about that old Drive-in Theater screen? Now how old do you feel with memories like that? :D

[CenterPointEX]

Is that a working drive in? It's been many moons since I been to a drive up picture show. You got me pegged lady, yur not the first one to dub me "smarty britches". Ventura if ya gotta know. I been thru oceanside but I ain't worked there ... Yet.
One of the guysdrug up yesterday, n headed back to Nevada, n one from vegas took his place, said the casinos were gettin the best of him so he hadda leave. The fella that drug was either old and he looked young or he was young n looked old, couldn't tell which. This trade does that to ya. It makes the body old fast but the heart never makes it past pueberty. It's almost like a bunchof kids with a box of... um I cain't member what ya call them things. The green n red sticks that stuck in round blocks of wood with holes in em... It wern't lincoln logs or leggos, what was them other things?

[LostArt]

Green and red sticks? I can think of the pix stix. Or those monkey things. But, I'm not sure what sticks you are talking about EX. The games my brothers and I played mostly were with cards. We could play Crazy8, Rummy and War for hours. I remember once that my brothers and I were playing Rummy at the dinning room table. Our father was a quiet man, rarely spoke unless he needed to say something. But, always had a mischievious glint in his eye. Teasing glistening eyes, so much they sparkled. Anyway, one of us turned up the Jack of Diamonds. My dad...........out of the blue (and he NEVER SANG) started singing, "Jack of Diamonds, jack of diamonds, jack of diamonds I cry! If a tree don't fall on me I'll live til I die!" He looked at our faces and I'm sure we were in awe/shock and our jaws dropped, threw back his head and laughed. Over the years, and now that he is gone, that memory has always been ingrained in my mind.

We must be pretty close to the same age EX. Age is only a state of mind. Tomorrow my mind might be in an aged state. Heh.

Hang in there, tomorrow is only a day away. And then the private party begins. Don't forget either bubbly.

[barehander]

I just put mine up so I can go to work......

[BPUman]

That's hilarious! I remember Tinkertoys, but this says "Electric" Tinkertoy on the tube!

Linemen are just kids that never grew up, still playing with their electric tinkertoys... :D

[LostArt]

BH, I think you guys are OLDER than me! I barely remember the lincoln logs. We had an older cousin that had those. But, I don't even remember anything like that Electric TinkerToy.

We did have those metal things you put together. And even my kids had the Legos. I just remember HotWheels and marbles mostly. And the Clackers drove my mom crazy! :D

[Madonna]

I called Tim a few weeks ago. We were trying to get him to come to San Diego to work with SDG&E. He's on a 1 1/2 year contract for certified Abestos Removal in LA. Says the pay is great and he has tons of OT.

Madonna

[CenterPointEX]

Bingo! Naked Finger... tinker toy's is what I was thinkin about. I believe I seen em around a few years ago, made of plastic instead of wood. Seems like kids don't want real stuff anymore... they is all into virtual Tink toys n stuff of that nature. Anyhow I got a call from Tim outa the blue. I'm gonna try n hook up on that job when the books clear a little so a fella can move.
MMMMMM. ohhh Ahhhh... It was just like I remembered... but even better. Absence does make the heart grow fonder. N wit the ole Lady it's like wine... better wit time. I first seen her when she was 13 at the Great Skate, n she wuz bouncin around on skates to "Hot Rod Lincoln" When she wuz 15 a mutual friend Ilene Lorente came across the floor at the Round Up Rodeo in Simington Texas n tole me I need to go ask her to dance cause she was crazy about me. I looked over that way N gazed into them big blue eyes, n... well life ain't been the same ever since. I think that was about 1978. Oh things ain't always been easy, but somehow we made it. Folks always ask me how we dun it... stayed togather that long.
I answer "see this sh!t eatin grin?"... For a guy, the secret is develope a taste for the stuff n smile when take a bite... pretend it's not such a bad thing. After a while it really don't bother ya much...learnt that from watchin her mamaw n papaw...
We spent a couple of days on Venice beach, I'm here to tell ya there's a differant kinda crowd there. We stayed at the Venice Suites. The Manager there is Randy it was his 50th B-Day. He took good care of us, even invited us to his pary on the roof. The place is right on the beach. We stayed in a one bedroom with a livin romm n a kitchenette, N a reall cool patio on the roof of the place. WWW.Venicesuites.com. When he was showin me around we ran into Butch on the roof, Butch pointed at my westco's n said "Ugg I cain't get away from em... lineman that is"... He wuz from Jersey, waitin out the strike on the west coast... He said he coulda made the same money in Mass. but... dang it's cold up there... N besides he has a fetish for Blaze Orange wit green trim ala Crinkle n Destroy.... Sweet dreams... I know I'm gonna have one!

[LostArt]

Wow. We even got romance and ............stuff in this blog. How wonderful.
Well, at least you had a nice relaxing weekend EX. This is good.

I'll leave you with a funny true story. Many years ago, and the boss worked out of town, he was gone ......oh ....probably around 3 weeks or more. He was coming home and I was beside myself with excitement. I was going to make his homecoming special. Called my sister-in-law and told her to keep the kids. I put candles in every room and made his favorite dish, and ran to got get ready..........slip on sumptin' more comfortable, ya know.

Meanwhile, the husband is in his truck with his supervisor....

His boss says, "Are you sure it's no problem to keep me up for the night son? I mean it has been weeks since you have seen the lil' lady?" My husband, the real young and "BRIGHT" one says, "Sure. You know she likes you. No problem."

No problem......

And I see the lights to the truck and I can't wait for him to see my "comfortable" outfit, you see. So, I go storming out, with my best smile....get to the truck door and my husband is trying to get his coat out and ...........put it on me??? What is this?? Then under the coat I hear his boss chuckling and saying, "Uh..........I think I need to go and get a hotel room, eh son?" My husband said, "Uh..........take my truck."

Me??? I think I was as red as my comfortable outfit. EGADS!

That's what is so great about being married so long, you have all that .....stuff to talk about over the years. Some good, some bad, and some that is so funny, it just makes the heart grow fonder, eh?

Time for me to head to work. I'll wait for ...."As the Blog Turns" tomorrow. Heh.

[CenterPointEX]

Candles... I hadn't thought of that. Actually I had, but I forgot... Happens to me sometimes, maybe more often than not. But candles in every room would have been grand. I reckon he'll never forgit the look on your face... I'd liked to seen it. It's funny the shape folks faces take in times of spiritual chagrin? Well they took the new kid from our crew an put him over where they needed a fresh set of hooks, n traded us the Wizard for him. Guess why they call him Wizard?

[LostArt]

I'll bite EX. Why is he called the Wizard? Working majic with a set of irons?

[CenterPointEX]

He's kinda off in Oz most of the time. That was suppozed to been a rhetorical question. Anyhow there are still 70 Lineman in the hole on the books, so we all bein kinda good, cause it's not a good time to get laid off n that sort of thing. The 24 thousand dollar question is will we make six days this week... ain't happened since I been here, wit MLK n the flood n the mud n all. Wife is startin to ask questions about the money I'm supposed to be makin here.

" Ok we been talkin n it's killin us so we got ta ask ya... Why ya always comin in here barefoot? I said it's cause ya got some big boots or something n ya don't want put em on till the last minute." The gal who serves up my Viente cup of Starbucks each morning with 3 honeys n a smile, gazed at me wit questioning puppy eyes...

Don't tell anyone but Oz is one of my favorite places to be...

[CenterPointEX]

I was giving you clues... so ya could guess... but yer not playin. Anyhow religion... um that term bothers me. One can do anything religiously. One could for example come to PWL.com everyday religiously. One could face mecca three times a day n spout a cantation, or for that matter pray to a rock four times a day. Can a rock save us... don't discount that so quickly. Anyhow these things are religious an therefor possibley construed religion. Is it possible to be sincere and be sincerly wrong? If someone has perfect faith that a rock will give them knowledge so they don't go to school, I'd place money on it that they would remain uneducated. Will praying to mecca get one to heaven? How does one get to heaven? I have posed that question to many of varied religions. Invaraibly they "answer I don't know exactly but I think if ya try to live a good life n do more good than evil... your in." To which I reply "how can one know when thier good outweighs their bad?" In the answer to this question... therein lies salvation. For the guys that flew 911 planes it was thier only way in. Thier bad so far outweighed thier good they had to take the only available path left... going out in Jihad an act of Holy War guaronteed them a place in Heaven... "Sincerely Wrong"
"Sola Scriptura"= "The Word Alone"
It is the only source of divine revelation. The Bible is true and without error.
"Sola Gratia" = "Grace Alone"
Grace is receiving what we don't deserve. Because we are sinners we don't deserve Heaven. There is nothing we can do to earn it. But by God's grace a way has been made for us to receive eternal life in Heaven
"Faith Alone" Understanding that we are sinners deserving eternal judgement, and that Christ, God our Father's only Son has taken that judgement upon himself in our stead, that if we live in thru him we may share in him eternal life.
Martin Luther read the Bible N tried to convince the priests that everyone should be able to do that. The Catholic church tried to silence him... Told him that if the word was in the hands of the people... how could they any longer control them?

Peter confessed who Jesus was n Jesus said "and you are Peter (Petra, Rock) n upon this rock I will build my Church. " He was speaking not of a rock, or of Peter, but of the confession that Jesus is Christ, Son of God, one with the Father n Spirit.

Thus I ask... can a Rock save you?

3\4 German and 1/4 Mexican.. Folks look at me funny when I tell em I'm a Mexican... For that matter they look at me funny when I tell em I'm an LCMS Lutheran Usually they are speechless

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[LostArt]

Well, I ain't gonna get into Christianity or Religion EX. I've learned enough from the past to know not to go far with it. Plus, I was banned on a Christian site about 3 yrs ago. But, I will tell you it was most definitely a learning experience. And it was a voyage I don't regret.

[Swamprat]

"I was banned on a Christian site about 3 yrs ago. But, I will tell you it was most definitely a learning experience."

I bet it WAS a "Learning experience". I ain't never been "banned", even be'in the a$$hole I am!.....Course, I don't frequent Christain sites...

I don't EVEN want to know LA.

I don't talk religion either Mam. Politics is bad enough...

[CenterPointEX]

LA van der blue... dilly dilly
LA van der green....
If I were king dilly dilly
You'd be my " Orange"

Orange ya glad ya don't gotta worry about things like Heaven n Hell... Just right now is all that matters. CAuse ya see we are all jus one big cosmic accident n jus like we came to pass we'll cum to pass... N yesterday will cease to exist cause there won't be anymore tomorrows. There will be none left to wonder...
What was the Point?... Center?
Not!

They inseprable WaterBug Cause they both righteously claim the people.

Righteous= Knowing n doing whats right according to God's Word.

Self Righteous= knowing n doing whats right according to one's self

[LostArt]

I don't EVEN want to know LA.

I don't talk religion either Mam. Politics is bad enough...

Yeah, you would wanna know this Swamp. Let's just say I was defending a Christian artist that does nudes. Yep, it's true. Making a statement for the art world can also become controversal. Especially if those two worlds collide.




LA van der blue... dilly dilly
LA van der green....
If I were king dilly dilly
You'd be my " Orange"



Did you make that up EX? :D I'm still trying to get where that came from.

And did you mean the "play" on those dem words about the Coming? Uh....interesting. :D

[CenterPointEX]

Dem (Democratic) Words... is that a Clinton thing?
" Oh where have you been Billy boy, Billy Boy
Oh where have you been Charm Silly
I have been to seek a wife she's the joy of my life
She's a young girl n cannot leave her Mother"

"Cum on N.O.W! ... a play on words me?" "Women's Libbers... I Luv em... "

The standing lineman were down to 46 on Friday... they must a put on some crews somewhere. The Wizzard got shipped to another yard somewhere downtown... Rio Hondo maybe. Dunno, Furball did'nt have the heart to fire him so he dumped him on another Foreman... I finally dune it...made a six day week, I'll get to see a real check. My little 33 hr check the first week was bigger than a 60 back home though.

[CenterPointEX]

Teddy Bear's Picnic soundtrack... circa 1971 Thats where the ditty's came from

[CenterPointEX]

Moving showup from Saticoy to Canoga on Tuesday. They callin for rain on Monday... dang... it never rains in california. Pat's win no boob's... well at least no uncovered ones. Hope ya had a grand day enjoyin the super bowl wit your family Mr. Bilski. Mine's 1476 miles away. Ya think one day maybe I'll quit bein pissed about that? Went to Grace Lutheran Church in Ventura today...Prayed that I'd forgive n forget. Lord forgive me my trespasses just as I forgive those who trespass against me?
... Dang! Why'd I have to pray sumtin as condemming as that?

[CenterPointEX]

Sweet pea n his wife had irreconcilable differances... he drug up... they said he smelled bad anyhow... Dunno... I never got that close? I got rid of my TV 6 or 7 years ago cause I was a junkie... This crowd I'm hangin wit now has me hooked on "Lost" n "24"... Help!

[Swamprat]

"Yeah, you would wanna know this Swamp. Let's just say I was defending a Christian artist that does nudes. Yep, it's true. Making a statement for the art world can also become controversal. Especially if those two worlds collide."

Those 2 worlds do and will always collide LA. Always.
That's why I don't get involved in religious stuff. I read Mr. CenterPoint's Profile.

God Bless ya man....
We don't need to be talkin to each other.

You carry your load, I'll carry mine.

[CenterPointEX]

Got off a little early n went to watch the sunset on ventura beach... Awesome..
When I see a Line truck, I know someone intelligent made that sucker... It didn't just happen. When I see the sunset... Wow!
I guess this a lame duck thread. I didn't know time was so short. Life turns out that way. Everyone knows inherrantly about the true God... For some the cost of faith is too great.... "self will" "subjection of it"... "bondage of the will" is a cruel master. We are hungry for a perfect realationship. He who starves at a table richly set does so by his own will...

[Swamprat]

"For some the cost of faith is too great....

"self will" "subjection of it"... "bondage of the will" is a cruel master. We are hungry for a perfect realationship. He who starves at a tabe richly set does so by his own will..."

So, dude...nowhere in your profile does it say anything bout ya doin Linework.

Are you a Lineman or a preacher? I ain't got nothin against preachers, but...if you're a lineman...I wouldn't want to be on your crew.

"self will" "subjection of it"... "bondage of the will" is a cruel master."

Damn man...you're "deep". You're right though...takin care of yourself and figurin out where ya stand in life IS a bitch.

Like I said...you're too deep for me man....

"Got off a little early n went to watch the sunset on ventura beach... Awesome..
When I see a Line truck, I know someone intelligent made that sucker... It didn't just happen. When I see the sunset... Wow!
I guess this a lame duck thread. I didn't know time was so short. Life turns out that way."

Honestly man....you sound like you're smokin some GOOD weed.

So...are you really a Lineman?

[CenterPointEX]

Let's see riverbug... I once clumb up a pole n bumbed my head on a xfmr... Does that qualify me as a lineman? I can do the egg climb in 19secs, I can do the hurtman consistantly under a minute, 54secs was my best time. I been to Kansas twice with differant teams. Finished 12th n 14th. When It blows in Sugarland I know where to trim the trees, N which urd xfmrs to isolate out a the water, when the load gets outa hand I know better than the board what circuits to move it to. I can smell a fuse on a urd terminal pole n pretty much tell what took it out. Like any of that does meany good in california. I can splain how a xfmr works in tech or in linemanease. My shoulders are saggin n my knee's are like jelly, when I wake up in the morning my fingers are numb. All I can remember about Christmas is it was cold n wet n Denny's was too crowded to sit n wait for meal. "Which Christmas?" you ask... pretty much all of em since 1984. I remember when it was kosher to make a grunt understand if he didn't follow command he wouldn't be around long enough to hurt himself or someone else. I've heard "I heard the explosion it was over that way... what was it an xfmr?" more often that I've heard politicions tell a lie. I can pick your boogers with a scope stick fifty feet away. But all these things I count as dung compared to what is waiting for me at the end of this journey.
It is my prayer swampdude that some day you might also know the joy that is in me. That you might walk sans the burden squeasing the life from your soul.

Local 47 on tuesday no left over calls n sitton on 48 lineman
Darrel had a spat with his superiours... N didn't get laid off... didn't get fired... Um... he got released.. Worked for LC a couple of days n they made him foreman with the orange, green, n yellow boys. Imagine That?

[CenterPointEX]

80% chance of rain tomorrow in the place it never rains...dang... Got my first 6 day check... Nice... Had a 40yr old grunt today, he's trying to break into the trade, been at it a month... slapsticks kicked his arse before he got started. It can be done I reckon but I wouldn't want to do it... I'm praying for ya swamprat.. n you too Bud I ain't forgot. Let me know when Ya've had enough, we'll talk terms.

Local 47 Thursday 44 in the hole... 9 went out today.

[Swamprat]

"I'm praying for ya swamprat.. "

Thank you sir, I probably need it. But I like to think the Big Guy and I have come to terms.

I appreciate any other words to help support that.

[LostArt]

Bless that 40 yr old grunts heart. I'm betting he ain't the underdog yet.

I know. I think positive. What is wrong with that? I pull for Swamprat most of the time.......

[CenterPointEX]

You guessed it... rained out again.
"Back at home... a young wife waits.... her Green Beret... has met his fate... he has jumped n died this day... he was one... of the Green Beret"
Barry Saddler circa 1969.
I was pissed when Vietnam ended...It ended a couple of years before I was old enough to join. I grew up watching it on TV wit Walter Cronkite doing the daily body count... I wanted to go over there n kick some commie arse... We won by the way... It wasn't a battle over territory, but over idiology. We were defending a way of life... goverment of the people,by the people, for the people. The enemy was the godless form of government espoused by the USSR. It was a battle worthy of the blood of our forefathers. The people of Vietnam had the unfortunate honor of being the turf upon which two souls collided. When the day was over and night came soul searching began. The next morning our cause enabled us to stand again n walk with purpose. The USSR on the other hand no longer had the will to defend an albatros. They spit on some of ya when ya came back, but in my eyes you were and always will be heroes... defenders of the life we proudly call American...
Welcome home boys... carry on... Godspeed!

Local 47 Friday 56 Lineman in the hole

[CenterPointEX]

Got my Baurista to go outside n do a cartwheel with me. Splained to her that life always changes after a cartwheel. The look on her face when we went feet up was priceless. Cousin Rich n his gal didn't know what to make of it... but they were smiling just like everybody else in OZ... Do BAurista's n thier customers really do cartwheels? "Whats a Baurista?"... thats what they call the folks who serve coffee at StarBucks... Wish I'da bought some of thier stock when I first got hooked on the stuff. I'm a genuine card carryin Starbuckian... The rain held off n we did the double time dance... woo hoo. Trixie been lettin me drive the last couple of days... I played hell gettin a tool from him... said he was daydreamin... said his back hurt... I accused him of being mezmorized from staring at my butt. Told him about Jimmy Garcia having that problem. Jimmy always let me know when I looked good. Trixie accused me of maybe having something to do with Jim... Jim's dead n I'm alive... Jimmy died of Aids about ten years ago... He was a good lineman n a good guy... cept for the gay part... we talked about that towards the end. Even in the throngs of death he couldn't bring himself to consider faith because it meant recanting the lifestyle.
Is it possible to be sincere n be sincerely wrong?

[LostArt]

"Let's go fly a kite....." ---From Mary Poppins

Cartwheels are good. Flying kites with the kids in the neighborhood is better. I don't know what it is about having one that has the kids come running, but they will. Kinda fun actually. And the more colorful the kite the better.


"Dancing in the rain is good for the soul.
But, I'll wait til April showers when it ain't so cold."

[CenterPointEX]

Ugg they are calling for three days of rain... then D.W.P. is off Sat n Mon for presidents Day... but guess what? They ain't off at all for Easter... L.A.D.W.P. don't believe in God holidays... they don't want to offend anyone... Don't the folks in California understand that they teeter on the edge of fallin in the Pacific? N they want to splap God in the face by observing MLK day N Presidents day but outlaw Good friday n Easter... It would be a shame if someone had to explain the holiday to their kids. Swanprat is worried about our guns bein taken away... When they take our Bibles then the end won't be far away... Is it possible that this country will turn back to its roots and return to bein a Christian nation? Swamp you can attack the messanger all you want. The nation Isreal killed most of the messangers that called them to repentance in order to avert their demise... GodSpeed Ladies n Genleman

[Saline]

Hi,

Thanks for cutting in there Swamprat, for a while I thought this was turning out to be a two way thread.

Hey, LA you're just like my bird, there a song in every word. It's a battle trying to say anything without it being finnished with a line or two from some golden oldie from the fifties or sixties. I must say those were the best years to be young.

Stay alive and keep the note rolling, this is the latest addition to my garden.

[LostArt]

My mom use to do it also. I grew up hearing her records. You know, those 45's and 33's? My favorite has to be Tom Dooley. "Hang down your head Tom Dooley, hang down your head and cry. Hang down your head Tom Dooley, oh boy your bound to die."

Nice garden Al! I love the stone and rocks buddy. Husband won't let me do the bird bath thing anymore now that we left home. And I use to have a a couple of fountains. I love hearing the water run and listening to birds chirping. Where we are now, you don't have to lure them in. They run wild here. Kinda nice. Except for the salamanders. The boss said it is salamanders instead of moles diggin' up the yard.

EX, we as a nation, have come to the point where we can't "offend" anyone. All I see is folks sittin' on a fence.

[CenterPointEX]

Quote: LostArt "EX, we as a nation, have come to the point where we can't "offend" anyone. All I see is folks sittin' on a fence."[/QUOTE]

That's funny... Only in a Christian Nation is that possible... Ya see in nations that are not Christian, folks don't have the right not to be offended. Ya have to deal with and submit to the them wit the biggest sticks. Be it Stalin, Arrafat, or Sadman H. . That we have freedom of will, or the right to "life, liberty, n the pursuit of happiness" is a testimony of our forefathers to their faith in the God of Abraham, Issiac, n Jacob... our Lord Jesus Christ n His Holy Spirit which dwells in us. They asked Jesus, "Which is the greatest commandment?" He replied, " Love God with all ur heart, soul, n mind... n love ur neighbor as yerself. Upon these hang the rest of the commandments."
When America's morals\laws cease to be grounded in Judeo\Christian moorings, America won't be able to reproduce itself as it has for the last two hundred years. Daily as I read the newspaper I hear groanings from the infrastructial stress of a nation adrift in the quagmire of self righteousness.

The 40yr old grunt was sent down the road... a native kid came in the revolving door. Trixie has a new tradition... when we finish a pole he tops the bucket out n burns one... just like the Marlboro Man... Talked to Darrel today he did'nt seem real thrilled about bein on D.W.P. property... but what's a fella to do?... there was 64 standing journeymen at local 47 today...2-15-05 The Canadians n F.E. Boys are wintering here...

[Swamprat]

"That we have freedom of will, or the right to "life, liberty, n the pursuit of happiness" is a testimony of our forefathers to their faith in the God of Abraham, Issiac, n Jacob... our Lord Jesus Christ n His Holy Spirit which dwells in us."

Be that as it may, and not sayin I don't agree with ya,

But,...Nowdays, ya better have faith in your OWN SELF too, and YOUR direction on the road of this life we are livin.

"The lord helps those that help themselves".

Terriorists believe in Their God too. So Centerman,
...does that make it "Their God against Our God"?

My personal belief. There's only one God. Supreme Being...whatever ya want to call the "Big Guy"

It's organized Religion that's fcukin up the whole concept of the Big Guy.

I mean, really....Is he givin different "rules" to Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Hindus?

I don't THINK so. He gave 10 Commandments. Period. They're real straight forward, and they're for ALL of humanity. Pick your religion.

He didn't say nothin about beatin your head on the ground 5 times a day, or treatin cows as sacred. The Big guy gave 10 rules. Religions "incorporated" all this other BS to...."attract followers". Organized Religion is THE problem in our world today.

The 10 Commandments are real easy to understand. I don't care what religion you are. They are the foundation of my life.

I was raised Catholic. I eat what I want to on Friday. Meat or Fish. Fish on Friday...is "organized religion". Ain't got nothin to do with God, or his wishes or the 10 commandments.

Ya either "get it" or ya don't.

I don't like talkin about religious beliefs, but your little "richious" post....just sorta....let me post my richious post.

God bless ya man.

[CenterPointEX]

ShallowRodent... Your blood is the epitomy of that which courses thru the veins of the American circulatory system. Our blood runs Luke warm..." I desire that you were either hot or cold, but you are lukewarm n putrid to the taste, so you are spit out." J.C. We are schitzo... on the one hand we lift up the righteous, loving, champion of justace n freedom we call America... N on the other hand we not only tolerate, but we champion also evil as outlined in the last five verses of Romans Chapter One... O.K. class time to dust off those Bibles so ya won't be left out in the cold... The Koran, The Book of Morman, and the Bible are mutually exclusive... if any one of them is truth, then the other two cannot be... the are unreconcilable. Swamp... what does one have to do to get to heaven? Are you gonna make it there?

The rain held off... The Rodeo Queen got to perform pole top rescue at safety meeting for the masses. Met the legendary L.C. he brought me the phone N J.R. was on the other end. He said if me n Donald was speed demons C.A. was backin up... I said, "Yup... theys 65 linemen backed up today at Local 47.

[Swamprat]

"ShallowRodent... " Heh, heh, heh,... I Like that. :-) :-)

"Swamp... what does one have to do to get to heaven? Are you gonna make it there?"

Sure! I may not be on the first bus of 144,000, but I'll make the next ride!

[technic]

[QUOTE=Swamprat,...Nowdays, ya better have faith in your OWN SELF too, and YOUR direction on the road of this life we are livin.

"The lord helps those that help themselves".

Terriorists believe in Their God too. So Centerman,
...does that make it "Their God against Our God"?

My personal belief. There's only one God. Supreme Being...whatever ya want to call the "Big Guy"

It's organized Religion that's fcukin up the whole concept of the Big Guy.



He gave 10 Commandments. Period. They're real straight forward, and they're for ALL of humanity.

He didn't say nothin about beatin your head on the ground 5 times a day, or treatin cows as sacred. The Big guy gave 10 rules. Religions "incorporated" all this other BS to...."attract followers". Organized Religion is THE problem in our world today.

The 10 Commandments are real easy to understand. I don't care what religion you are. They are the foundation of my life.

Ya either "get it" or ya don't.
[/QUOTE

Right On Swamp!!

You might as well be debating with one of those cypress knees.
The fanatics are always right.... Point, Batts, will never waver.

[BPUman]

Well, I guess that means all the rest of us are 'moderates'...funny :D Sometimes I think I have more things in common with both CenterPointEX and Steve and less in common with all the others in the middle, considering I go to church AND despise Bush... :rolleyes: But hey, I do love an icy cold draft...

[BPUman]

Well, I guess that means all the rest of us are 'moderates'...funny :D Sometimes I think I have more things in common with both CenterPointEX and Steve and less in common with all the others in the middle, considering I go to church AND despise Bush... :rolleyes: But hey, I do love an icy cold draft...

Beer, that is...not wind.

[LostArt]

Beer, that is...not wind.

LMAO! Heh.

Swamp, you know good and well you will be on the slow bus.

I kinda always liked what my daddy said, "Actions speak louder than words." Which coincides with, "You shouldn't have to blow your own horn, people see what you do." He always meant that the Big Guy was watching also.

Reminds me of another song EX:

"I'm a picker, I'm a grinner, I'm a lover and I'm a sinner. Play my music in the sun!"

[Swamprat]

""I'm a picker, I'm a grinner, I'm a lover and I'm a sinner. Play my music in the sun!"

I'm a smoker, I'm a toker, I'm a midnight joker....get my lovin on the run...."

THAT's why I'm on the second bus. :-)

I ain't sure I'd take back them younger days though. The 60's were pretty cool. Course I was a democrat then. The world was a "lotis blossem". :-)

[LostArt]

"Sykadelic man. Dig it dude." ;-) ;-) Lava lamps, flower power, tye dye t-shirts, Hendrix, women's lib...........

The 70's were mine. Not too much different from the 60's, but we did take rock n roll to another level. That is, until the disco duck crew came in. What was up with dat???? I think I was the only one that thought Travolta retarded! LOL! 'Course now he is pretty cool. Heh.

Hang Ten, bellbottoms, colored beads, chokers, Mini-maxi-midi skirts, mood rings, 8tracks, Mork and Mindy, "Nahnoo-Nahnoo", Archie Bunker, .........."...those were the days!"

[woody]

Drink beer and talk religon or about general life or politics or linework. geez guess I'm not gonna be back here...don't have any sheep either...worked around em once and found them to be filthy and dirty. woody

[woody]

and I'm near the man that did all those things...steve miller lives around here. woody

[CenterPointEX]

Beer, that is...not wind.

Wow what a concept... Beer that is not wind ;... Lineman that is not hot air ...God that is not love... Martin Luther was a windy, drafty fellow... some folks accuse him of being a drunk. There was, in not too distant history a time in which commoners were not allowed to posses a copy of the scriptures. Just before Martin n the reformation. Let me think... what did they call it ...er... um... oh yea, medieval er ah Mid Evil... Martin being a good Catholic boy held to all of traditon taught to him. He strove to be the Catholic's Catholic. The more he tried to abide by their rules, the more he came up short... But then, in his studies he came upon the book of Romans. N he beheld the passage," The wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus." This went against all of traditon he had been taught. He began to question his superiors.. "Hey guys, have you seen this? It's free... we don't have to work or pay for it! Why don't the people know about this?"
N they tried to silence young Martin "If ya tell the folks that, we won't be able to control them anymore... then where will we get the money to fund our church n build our cathedrials?" So Martin bein a good German left the church, translated the Bible into the the common language, n started havin Keg Parties where they talked about God n life.. n linework not.
Folks took notes that exist still today in a collection called "Table Talks" ... Man what I'd give to have a drink.
Which reminds me of another song L.A. ...
"I like beer... it makes me a jolly good fellow... I like beer... it helps me unwind and somtimes it makes me feel mellow... makes him feel Mmmmelllloooow."

[CenterPointEX]

Drink beer and talk religon or about general life or politics or linework. geez guess I'm not gonna be back here...don't have any sheep either...worked around em once and found them to be filthy and dirty. woody

My man Jesus is a sheppard of sorts Woodster... I reckon I'm guilty... of bein a sheep that is.

Thursday Local 47 is down to 37 standin Lineman either they is buggin out or work is pickin up.

[Swamprat]

ya know centerman,

You and bup boy need to get together and set up a "Religious" thread.
That way you can seperate your discusion, where only the "faithful" will post.
bup seems to like your thinkin.

"psychological achillies hell and poking it wit my proverbial finger."

Well, it's spelled heAl man... and "wit" is with...

And, you just might want to pull your proverbial finger out of your butt, and stick it in your mouth, instead of pokin it at other people.

Just ....for a "proverbial" finger for ya. Startin from the thumb..."count 3".

[CenterPointEX]

ya know centerman,

You and bup boy need to get together and set up a "Religious" thread.
That way you can seperate your discusion.

Um... did ya happen to notice the title of this thread fur mud sucker.
N it's resident forum.. I'll give a hint... heavy on the BoVine Excreament AKA B.s.
Man... he plays inta ma hands bettern any of em. I kin count on it Eh L.A. L.M.A.O.

How many times have ya tried clickin on the link to my website in my profile Swamp? Do rats really chase "there tales"...? Strike that... reverse it... then proceed to square one...
"It's like De Ja vu all over again" Tommy Ladorda

[Swamprat]

"Um... did ya happen to notice the title of this thread fur mud sucker."

Yeah.

It's your handle. So?

This ain't you're "Blog" man. This is a Chat forum on Powerlineman.com.

Sorry you thought all your "Blog work" might have been lost.....when ya were bitchin on that ...other site.

Well, check it out....All your sh!t is still here. I heard you were gettin tired of "loosin your Blog" and may not come back to PL.com...

BTW...a Blog, is something you create yourself. Ya don't do a "Blog" off of somebody elses Forum.

Continue with your "blog" centerman...........

[CenterPointEX]

"psychological achillies hell and poking it wit my proverbial finger."
Well, it's spelled heAl man... and "wit" is with....
Swamp pulled that out of my profile.

Some have accused me of being a word smith.. I prefer the term "Communicalical Butcher" I often coin words; Case in Point, for communicadical sake. If ya wanna match "wits" remember the early bird really isn't "concerned wit" how much sleep the worm gets. On occasion I spell saudways for effect, to break cadence N make the mind N the heart linger on a phrase to drive home the CentralPoint. You may someday learn that for back water cheese eaters more often than not the best response is no response. You said once you were glad not to be on my crew. Your ability to succumb is uncanny Swamp... I dare say each day your crew is giddy with anticipation of the forthcomming fingering. I do gotta hand it to ya though Swamp... touche on the "three count"
Welcome the the thead dude... your own personal, virtual, proverbial, "Hell"

Which as always brings to mind another song L.A.
"You can check out any time you like... but you can never leave"

We got rained out again today... yesterday we woulda, but we did a complicated cut&kick before lunch, when it started rainin we couldn't leave it so we got a full day in.
Friday Local 47 dispatched 16 Lineman left only 27 on the books.
"Tune next time.. same "Batts" time, Same friendly Web Log...A.K.A CPXBlog

[LostArt]

Okay, I got lost somewhere with the pokin' fingers and hells own fury, not to mention bringing in the sheeves. Too much utter chaos.

I like this blog and don't really care whose it is.

Eagles. Good choice EX.

So Woody, how is Steve Miller?

".....keep on ah rockin' me baby... keep on ah rockin' me baaaby.........baby, baby, baby!"

[Swamprat]

"Some have accused me of being a word smith.. I prefer the term "Communicalical Butcher" I often coin words;"

Yeah, you're the next William F. Buckley man. :-) Yo got a long way to go...

I "coin words too". "Crims" was my latest.

Chrome Rims.

" Swamp pulled that out of my profile."

Yup, put my rubber glove on and "Went up and got it"!! :-)

Ya know, on second thought...It would be grins to work with you on a crew.

[Swamprat]

Oh...Ok...I get it CP.
No man, I actually never noticed your "website" under your profile. http://www.powerlineman.com/lforum/showthread.php?t=31

Cool! So THAT's a Blog, huh? Direct people to your comments on somebody elses BBS.

Actually, I thought a Blog was when a person had their own website, and broadcast their opinions and retoric from that site. Like...the Drudge Report is a "Blog".

Hay, 'live and learn".

[CenterPointEX]

Wouldn't ya know it... we gotta be off today for Presidents N it went N rained all day... I tink I really am gettin a web foot...<--- that statement has dual conotations Swamp... If yer readin this ya must be just as bored Sh*tless as I "is"... N ifn yer Clinton fans I reckon that depends on what the meaning of "is" is? Furrball called n they may send us out to Edison Property in the morning on storm. D.W.P. will probably have a harry agin ifn we do. I really don't understand that, D.W.P. must have a bigger cache of Lineman than Edison, in that they don't use contractors for storm like Edison does. Anybody know what up with that? Is there any local 47 brothers listening in?
It's cummin Reliant boys... they started the experiment with the St. Light Dept. to see if they could control the work n not get screwed n keep the public happy... It's working... One of the light Co. paper pushers cum out on a job we was on N brought us some pizza cause we had done so well on the timeline of a job. They couldn't believe how fast we got it done. Ya cain't compete wit guys that don't use sticks on 19...N ain't got no vacation or sick time. He said the Light Co. was contimplatin gettin rid of some more hands N takin slack with Contract like they doin out here in California. Only problem I see is they ain't payin market price... All the 66 hands is out here where they kin make a livin N not get road hard n put up wet doin it.
Maybe ya can ask him for me Ron... I'm thinkin from the way he was actin that Hanzelka had prior knowledge. I was walkin down the dock n he went down n around the trucks not to walk by me... Did they poll the headlineman or sumtin beforehand lookin for marks... I still ain't got a straight answer how all that went down. Probably never will. How bout some of you friggin foreman... any of you lap dogs got the balls to come off the truth? Harvey? ,,, Talked to Hillick... he's workin at a Church... N talkin like a Christian... Imagine that?
I know...I know Ron... ya believe in freedom from religion... n are probably relishin yer freedom from the likes of Hillick... N myself... I'm thinkin I got me a captive audience?

[Swamprat]

"that statement has dual conotations Swamp... If yer readin this ya must be just as bored Sh*tless as I "is"... "

No, not really man,...at all.
You're doin your "Blog". I just happened to get caught up in it.

You go ahead and talk to your "boys" CP.... I was just passin thru your "blog"...

"God bless ya".

[LostArt]

"that statement has dual conotations Swamp... If yer readin this ya must be just as bored Sh*tless as I "is"... "

No, not really man,...at all.
You're doin your "Blog". I just happened to get caught up in it.

You go ahead and talk to your "boys" CP.... I was just passin thru your "blog"...

"God bless ya".

Heh, heh, heh. You two are crackin' me up! Swamp, you said "gettin caught up in it" like you were one of Dorothy's side kicks. Ummm.........now what reason would you be going to see the Wizzard for? (I'm teasing you!)

Yeah, I got the Webfooted blog remark EX. Me wonders WHY "I" would get that(maybe because I called you that in your first bloggin' chapter????!!!) Soon you will be waddlin' buddy. But, just don't miss that boat now, ya hear?

[CenterPointEX]

Damn...I finally got a crack at some... Cal storm work that is... D.W.P stiffs ifn your listenin, cut us some slack. Ifn yer gonna hold us for two n send us home... at least realease us to go work storm somewhere else. Whada ya think we is your exclusive yard dogs. There ifn ya need us, but tied to the fence If'n ya don't?... Ran ita Big Ed from C.P. also Ralph O, N Bubba from NHPL... Bubba said Uncla Earl asked what it'd take to keep him... Bubba pretty much told him a hysterectamy. The ligt company had an abortion n the bleedin's gonna take a while to heal.. Houston is kind of a messy place for lineman to be thease days. Darrel missed it, he had went home for he long weekend , did he tighten up yer ole lady Bud? I hear F.E. is gettin close to resolution in Jersey. It'll make things a little different when dem Birds flock home N leave this place. Went out Sunday n got in late monday... Some of the boys were headed out for another 32. We gonna have to get all these Texas boys togather one weekend n do a hoe down or Turkey Skinnin somewhere. It's been rainin since thrusday. Edison sent me n Trixie out to catch trash order ligh's out.. Trouble shootin for Ed. right up my alley...Trixie was so punch drunk he couldn't keep it on the green line n tellin stories about some JY saronadin him n complainin about how this state is overrun wit TExan's n Canadian's. Sure would like ta have me one of them ConEd rain suits..It'd almost be worth it ta hire on there n then drag jus ta get one of em. There is such a thing as straigt 480 from a 277 480 Pot. Ya ground a leg to chek Votlt.s Sutin about a firecraker.

[woody]

hey word man...If your gonna quote somebody at least get it right"feels like deja vu all over again" Tommy Lasorda...NOT...it's YOGI BERRA. Also wanna be green beret; barry sadler never sang for you or anyone else other than those that were at that time green berets. Conflicting comments to pull others in or hopefully out of your reach. Save yourself before helping others, like how you talk down to others in this thread...serves well in your shallow thinking? Hey l.a. steve is doing good, does a few gigs locally when he wants...has a nice spread on the san juan islands. woody

[CenterPointEX]

Barry put out an Album...His pic was on the front cover. There is an album hangin on the wall in Nashville at the bar on the corner next to the old opery house ifn ya wanna check it out...I been singing that song over thirty years now. N Ifn ya member right Woodster I didn't quote Tommy Lasorda... I quoted Tommy Ladorda... Ya might not know Ladorda, but I do. I'm kinda thinkin; but I don't really know, he was related to them der Delegals..
Ta quote our friend Swamp.."Are you a lineman" Woodster?... Ifn ya are, ya know as well as I do ya jus dont talk to linemen like ya do other folks... most of the time ya gotta hit em in the head wit a roll of tape or sumtin ta git there attention. They's too busy bird doggin ifn there's any to be done... I cain't save my self Woodster, nobody kin... Ifn a fella could save hisself, then what the sheppard done woulda not been necessary. That's what I been tryin to bang thru yer cockamamie head... If ya was within reach I could bang a Bible on it ta git yer attention. Not that it would do any good. Ta return evil fo good is Satanic. Ta return good fer good is human... Ta return good fer evil is Divine... Like I said before... I reckon I'm guilty... of bein a sheep that is... ya know em Woodster, ya worked around em before... Lineman... sheep... same differance, both piss where ever they feel like it...

Dem DWP stiffs musta heard me... they let us work trouble today... they got there moneys worth outta us though... got my webbed footed arse soaked... DWP puts bandaids on it in dis situation... Contractors don't have that option... Welcome back to Hell Tree Stump.. I taught ya wern't cummin back hear no more... Sumtin about freedom from from religion... N linework..
To qoute an ole friend of mine... one a Dem Delagals related ta Dem der Ladordas... "Doink!" Swamp nose... ask em?

[LostArt]

Dem dar Da Legals come all away from the Revelutionary War I have you know EX. Yep, a pile of Frenchmen. Kinda all watered down now though.

Woody, I'm glad to know Steve is well. I was a teenager listening to his music. My brother's name is Billy Joe. Can you guess which song got the most miles?????? :D

[CenterPointEX]

Local 47 had 11 standin calls left over today . There was a bunch of guys on book one but I reckon there skippers. There was some on DWP prop N some listed as 5- 8's Nobody really wants ether less they's hungry.
We got a little more done today than yesterday. Yesterday me N Trix was so punch drunk with hangovers from the 54 hrs of OT in 3 days we didn't know which way was up... thats real impotent when ya workin a hot pole... The Kid got wind of what was goin down at the hall N drug for greener pasture... California is at 35 inches of Rain N they are callin for rain next week agin...
Hey if you are headed this way from local 66 hit me with a private message. I need a package from Houston. The way it's goin they's gotta be one of you smucks headed this way soon, N last one out turn out the lights and light a candle for Red Simpson. Space City deserves them cowboys... Thanks for the warnin about Bilski Ron... by that time it was already too late... Don't feel guilty Bubbie cause I know there is a God n he's got a plan for me. He ain't brought me this far to let me down. Evil dudes like Bilski come N go, but God never changes... Do me a favor N say a prayer for Bilski would ya.. so's I won't be the Lone Ranger. To return good for evil is divine...

[CenterPointEX]

Local 47 9 calls left over

They had a Houston style thunderstorm today, hail N the whole bit. I'm beginnin to wonder if God's had it with California...
We had little ole lady driving a Mercedes try to use a pole we was draggin as a speed bump. The grunt tried to stop her but she rolled up to the stopsign, looked both ways N punched it like she been doin the last 25 years, only this time we had just come around the corner with a 65 foot pole... next thing ya know we had us a real expensive teeter totter. Crinkle n Destroy will prob buy her a new attitude for simplicities sake...
DWP musta heard me bitchin... The gonna try to get us workin on rain days ifn there is trouble...

[CenterPointEX]

Tex Drug... I reckon two Texans n one Canadian on one crew was one too many Texans... how many more months ya gotta stay here in the Land of Fruits N Nuts Coppin?

DWP said they liked how we worked trouble N they are probably gonna use us next time. When the inspector came up we were gettin it in a downpour.

Talked to Darrel... he said he took care of your ole Lady when he was in town Bud... J.R. broke his finger showin a grunt how to skin wire?

After I got laid off from CenterPoint\HL&P I spent 6 months of restless days N sleepless nights tryin to figure out how not to get laid off from CenterPoint.
They escorted us off the property at gun point (off duty HPD) They didn't let us get our rags... fedex'd em to us a week later. At the same time CenterPoint stock went from 48$ to 4$ N I had 6000 shares of that crap... Warren Buffet loaned em 2 Billion dollars at 12% interest to bail em out... I wonder what Warren knows that we don't. Thought I was gonna retire at 55 wit a million dollars in the bank... Here I am at 44 Trampin? It's been two years now since that wonderful day... I'm just now gettin to where I don't wake up in a cold sweat anymore... I was one sick puppy. I asked Ralph Obegone "Ya miss the Light Company?", he said, "Hell No!" I looked him in the eye N knew he was a lie'n Mother F^$$er... told him so N he didn't protest.

[LostArt]

I can't even imagine a big loss like that EX. 'Course the Boss and I are comfortable and it's because of his job. But, I know my loss would be greater if I lost him.

I watched my mom lose the best part of her in '91 and then became "comfortable". If you asked her today which would she take, she would tell you my father instead of being "comfortable".

What you never had, you never miss. But being loved and to then lose it, is better than never being loved at all.

[CenterPointEX]

Imagine this... you don't lose the Boss per sey, but the Boss gets wiped out financially, then loses hiS ability to work... What you would have at that Point, would be a shell in which the Boss used to Exist. You would go to work to support him N that would whack his pride, and even further the downward spiral... He would get depressed, despondant, N be a Downright pissed ole' fArt... How would a LostArt relate to a person like that...? Would he still be the Boss...?

By the way L.A. you gave a perfect analogy of Hell. That's what hell will be. Currently we reside under the wing of God\Christs Love. Evil in this place is not prevented but it is restrained.
Hell is a place a person will eternally dwell on their eternal loss of that love.

[LostArt]

LA would still say he is the boss even if he was in a wheelchair. I'm not saying it would be easy. I'm not saying that I wouldn't want to knock his block off at any given time that he acts like an @ss. I'm no saint. And neither is he.

But, you forget EX. The Boss and I have a living example that is in our family of knowing sacrifices. He has experienced the wife that left him, the loss of having no children, the loss of working a regular job and most of his physical abilities of being independent. But, by the grace of God he still has a wonderful attitude about life.

I hope that never happens to us. I'm sorry that it happens to people all over the world today. I'm sure it is happening to several at this moment in time.

Life can deal you some blows, but it's how you deal with it that makes you or breaks you.

[CenterPointEX]

Life can deal you some blows, but it's how you deal with it that makes you or breaks you.

Amen Mrs. L.A., I didn't forget... U take the hook almost as good as Swamp

Some people get pissed at God when they get dealt a tough hand to play. Some give up on God N decide to live their lives apart from him... they quit reading the Word, quit meeting togather with other believers where they could be mutually encouraged by each others faith. They quit living as if there is something more to life than the moment. Some folks fold for good N walk away leavin thier chips on the table... eternally.

God dealt us a royal flush in Christ... do we have it in us to pick up that hand N play it?

[LostArt]

Amen Mrs. L.A., I didn't forget... U take the hook almost as good as Swamp



LOL! Heh. Okaaaay. I'll let that ride for now. :p

Thanks for the pics EX. The view from the top SIDEWAYS is nice.

Yep, that is how I remember Oceanside, CA looking like. I'd like to see the Northern part of CA.

Thanks again for the pics buddy.

[Swamprat]

"Amen Mrs. L.A., I didn't forget... U take the hook almost as good as Swamp"

You're a piece of work CP. :-) I love it...

Glad to see you're havin a good time... You and your "Blog". Heh, heh, heh....
Hell, If I was trampin, I'd be talkin sh!t on the internet at night too! Bein a fish boy, you damn sure ain't in the bars.

I'll chime in whenever ya got some good bait on the hook. :-)

[LostArt]

You ain't no better'n EX here Swamp! You go about aggitatin' all the time! You know you do!! (stop grinnin'!--you know I am right!) I've seen you at your finest Sir Swamp. Yep, yep, yep.

Gracious, ya'll don't reckon Mr. Batts read blogs, do ya? Just in case...**waves**......HEY STEVE!! :D

[Swamprat]

You ain't no better'n EX here Swamp! You go about aggitatin' all the time! You know you do!! (stop grinnin'!--you know I am right!) I've seen you at your finest Sir Swamp. Yep, yep, yep.
:D[/i]

Excuuuuuuse me Ms. LA?

ME? Aggitate? I was just talkin to fish boy! This is CP's "Blog"...we really ought not be clutterin it up with our trash talkin....

So, CP....What bait's on your hook this time? -) :-)

[woody]

Tramping 101, geez sorry centerpoint-ex that you now have to travel for your high paying job. Jeez, who paid for your training? How did you get into your first linework job? These are questions that I would like to hear answers from you...not the other's that are all in code(for good reason)...with all the suffering by everybody it seems...your whinning is getting a little bit silly. Quit thinking your the first lineman that left something good or better yet; quit thinking your above all this! woody

[CenterPointEX]

Tramping 101, geez sorry centerpoint-ex that you now have to travel for your high paying job.,,,Quit thinking your the first lineman that left something good or better yet; quit thinking your above all this! woody

Well it's not so bad Woodster... I'm gettin use to it... But ya gotta remember I came up a light company puke... Ifn ya don't already know them boys think they are a class above the tramps... Ya know they got a pocket full of fancy tools N an endless supply of new gloves. When a pair gets a little soiled ya throw em away n get new ones. Me, I used to dig em outa the trash on the dock an pass em on to the contractors that resided out in the corner of the yard. I kind felt for em... never thought I'd be one. I was a trouble shooter on nights for about twelve years... Some job's I'd take one look at... get on the radio... N tell em this job sucks... give it to the contractors... I felt for em... never thought I'd be one... they were dirty... they din't have acces to our showers n endless supply of Lava & hand soap with lanolin... I was one of them high n mighty light company pukes... I knew we had I had it good... Sittin on the dock I could see them boys in the corner of the yard lockin down their sh%t in the rain. I was one of them there country club lineman... It's like one day I'm eatin steak... n the next day I'm eating hamberger... Ya Woodster I know people in India are starvin n if I want too I could gord myself on hamberger. I should count my blessins I know... but still I miss the steak... N the 350k in my bellied up 401K I was gonna use to pork myself with.
Went to welding school cause I wanted to be a plant mechanic... the only job open was meter reader... I was readin meters N waitin for the power plant job.. the line job came open... I remembered when I was a little kid n I watched some boys change the xfmr in our back yard. I thought it was cool. I took the line job... thought I had a job for life... that's the way it used to work... I'm thinkin some time in the near future that kinda job will be a thing of the past... ifn it ain't already... Cause ya see in a place where folks could give a sh!t about God's Word n the moral principles therein, it really don't matter how ya treat yer employee's... cause ya see it's every man for hisself... like git up off yer @ss n swim ya stupid drownin MF'er... quit whining n thinkin I'm gonna git off my @ss N throw ya a line... start wit yer thumb n count ta three! Or in to quote my friend Joe Bilski... "Give the Union some more of yer money N see what they do for you!" Joe knew he had big stick in his pocket when he made that statement. Her name was Amy McCormick... a combat proven Union buster they just hired as their personal Bitch... Stay tuned boys ya ain't seen the last of her likes...

[SBatts]

You ain't no better'n EX here Swamp! You go about aggitatin' all the time! You know you do!! (stop grinnin'!--you know I am right!) I've seen you at your finest Sir Swamp. Yep, yep, yep.

Gracious, ya'll don't reckon Mr. Batts read blogs, do ya? Just in case...**waves**......HEY STEVE!! :D

MORNING!!!! LostArt!!!!!! Never know what I would read. Right now I am reading labels on food products.Years of being tough and not going to the medics caught up to me last week in a truck stop. I stopped to get a diet Coke and on the way out to my pickup my arms stopped working. Drove to nearest hospital and spent 5 days learning that I have become a raging diabetic since my last blood work 3 months ago. Now no more CDL's, or linework even if I wanted to rejoin the working class. I have spent the last few days sticking holes in my fingers and eating 6 times a day. More work involved in managing diabetes than doing linework.

Please don't offer sympathy, it is just part of getting older. Getting sick today when young Americans are being killed and wounded is to me somewhere at the bottom of my worry list.

[LostArt]

MORNING!!!! LostArt!!!!!! Never know what I would read.

Uh HA!! There you are! I know. I just wanted to see if you were payin' attention. Heh.


Getting sick today when young Americans are being killed and wounded is to me somewhere at the bottom of my worry list.

Yes sir. I understand. My son-in-law and all of our American soldiers are on the top of my list.

Well, I won't take up anymore space in EX's blog. Top of the day to you Mr. Batts. Thanks for pokin' your head in and saying Hi.

[CenterPointEX]

Criminey... they pointed the finger at me today n said yer the new pusher... the sixty six HIck wouldn't piss when they tole him to do so n there was a vancancy.. member Woodster... Linemen N sheep... they piss when N where they want to... or Not... I drew the short straw... I like it way better not worrying about what I'm gonna do the next day... they can keep their silly three dollar a day pickup Truck. Darrel's lookin into a Diversified ride n he's gonna try n hitch me up ifn he gets a ride... Trixie misses me already... but he know's I'm only a phone call away...He tole me the other day he was feelin wet... I thought all Stewards had laminated union cards ta keep em dry... chingow... Es Ramon....

sixteen standin calls at local fourty seven... get em while they're hot... First Energy voted down the contract so they will start showin back up n loadin down the books agin...
Canada don't thaw out till the end of April so we're stuck wit the Kanuks for a couple...

[woody]

hey, o.k. your a better word man than I; what the hell is going onbetween you and LA.? Also remember (onetime only) I'm like a wolverine(if you choose to make me an animal); what I don't f@#& or eat; I piss on, HEY. LOVE IT MAN still don't love sheep...woody loving all brothers that are sheppards or shepards...or whatever...love...woody

[Swamprat]

hey, o.k. your a better word man than I; what the hell is going onbetween you and LA.? Also remember (onetime only) I'm like a wolverine(if you choose to make me an animal); what I don't f@#& or eat; I piss on, HEY. LOVE IT MAN still don't love sheep...woody loving all brothers that are sheppards or shepards...or whatever...love...woody

Sorry Woodster...didn't understand a bit of that. Must be me...must be a you and CP thing.

SO...CP...Ya takin the "Boss" job or what? Did you pass the piss test? :-)

[CenterPointEX]

Also remember what I don't f@#& or eat; I p@ss on,...
Reminds me of my early days as a meter reader for HL&P... They used to call on me for bad dog reads... I could look em in the eye N back em off. The only ones that wouldn't back off were either blind or they were crazy... But I had a way of training both of em... I'd find me a two by four, jump in wit em... when they charged I'd whump em flat on the head wit the two by... then I would find their favorite place in the yard to p!ss, whoop out the big dog, N change the smell of the place... Future encounters would consist of the dog sniffin in the air n retreatin to the corner of the yard wit thier head down N tail between their legs as I passed... I always made sure N freshined up my mark... just so's they wouldn't get any Ideas...

They didn't give me any choice on takin the Boss Job... Happy pointed the finger N said "yer it"... The last guy refused to piss, N the guy before that had to drag to get off the top of the Kanuks.


I'm tinken L.A. spends more time here that me N you N Swamp N Batt's put togather... It's like everywhere she is there we are... strike that reverse it... N return to square one... www.powerlineman.com/lforum/showthread.php?t=31&page=1&pp=10

Local 47 has six standin calls... thirteen skippers on book one N two on book two...

[LostArt]

hey, o.k. your a better word man than I; what the hell is going onbetween you and LA.?



I'm tinken L.A. spends more time here that me N you N Swamp N Batt's put togather... It's like everywhere she is there we are... strike that reverse it... N return to square one...

Reminds me of another oldie goldie guys, "Here I am, stuck in the middle with you."

Heh. Don't be draggin' me in this and makin' an Old and the Ruthless Blog! I'm just a reading and part time participant. :D Too funny. Next thing ya know you will be sayin' me and Mr. Batts has got sumptin' goin' on. :eek: :D

Heh. Too funny. I think Woody had a few last night and this morning he will regret it. :D

Carry on Mr. EX.....

[woody]

Hey just ya never mind...and I'm not sharing or apologizing...I am what I am...forget the rest...wish everybody else the best. Especially steve b. ...hope things are going as well as can be expected. sorry to hear the news BATMAN!...head and chin up always my man!!! woody

[LostArt]

Well, you have quite a few of the guys here laughing at this Woody! Turkey! Sheesh.....you guys really shouldn't post and drink, ya know.

[CenterPointEX]

Well Friends N Pals who hang our here in my own personal Blog...You guys missin me... looks like ya carried on without... I been locked up in the "Means to an End" It's like I cain't pass up a captive audience... Speakin of captive audiences, does anyone remember Laurel N Hardy?... Well git this... they been reincarnated, N every day they return to the show-up N call me Boss... "Are we done yet Ollie?"

[Swamprat]

You guys missin me... looks like ya carried on without... I been locked up in the "Means to an End" It's like I cain't pass up a captive audience... ?

Hay man...maby you should shift your Blog to the "Means to an End" thread.
A Blog is...."ya post your stuff" and people come to you and respond. You LEFT your "Blog" man. That's like goin out to a titty bar on the sly....then reportin back home.

Ya ain't payin attention to the "home front" CP. AND...ya actually admitted, "been locked up in the Means to an End".

Shame on you...."consortin" and stuff.....not takin care of your bussiness at home.

[woody]

Well the short answer is HELL NO cp. go fu ya stup! don't understand that...well how about looking in the mirror and think about being a racist asshole and go preach the sermon to the like minded people that most likely you hang out with. shit...miss you like a case of the clap. woody

[CenterPointEX]

...well how about looking in the mirror... to the like minded people that most likely you hang out with.Welcome back to the "Hang Out Stiffy"...Can't stay away can ya?... Put it back in yer pants!...
I knew it... you are strokin for Swamps Poster Child Job... Ya, Ya Swamp I know... I feel like a hussy cheatin on you guys...
Butt Allass... I Digress...

Local 47 thirteen standin calls

[Swamprat]

Hay CP, Check this site out! There's competition out there man....:-)
Really is sorta interesting.

http://www.godchecker.com/

[JackPineSavage]

Hey Swamp I just checked out that site and I think it is time to re-name Cp . According to the site Zues is the Top God , he is married to the Hera but what I found interesting is that he spends most of his time lusting after "otherGoddesess ,mortals ,animals, and indeed anything that will stand still long enough".I guess that we might have figured out his dirty little secret
JP

[Swamprat]

Be nice Savage....

"Zues" is contimplating his response. Sure as shit, we're gonna be "banished" to some god awful place for confronting the "Father". :-)

Ya recon we'll be kicked out of his "own personal blog"?

God forbid....

[CenterPointEX]

The Wrath of God is being revealed from Heaven against all Godless N wickedness of men who supress the truth by their wickedness,
since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them, for since the creation of the world, Gods' invisable qualities, HIs eternal power N divine nature have been clearly seen... being understood from what has made... so that all men are without excuse...
Though they claimed to be wise they became fools N exchanged the glory of the imortal God for images made to look like mortal man , N birds, N animals, N reptiles... Therefor God gave them over to the sinful desires of their hearts... To sexual immpurities for the degrading of their bodies, one with another...
They became filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed, N depravity, they are full of envy, murder, strife, deciept, n malice... they are senseless, faithless, heartless, N ruthless Romans Chap 1

"Lord... if there are just ten men left who fear your name... will you spare the city?"

"Lord you know that I Love you... why do you repeat the question?"

[CenterPointEX]

The Jersey strike seem's to have broken so the boys will hook em out n be back in Jersey by Wed... Drag on Flies bittin you?... The time is ripe

Movin showups Monday... says I'm only gonna take either Laurel or Hardy n I will pickup another ape in Saticoy... Which one do I wanna keep... Um ok I'll take Ollie... Ollie looks like he understands when I tell em sumtin.. Stan just looks at me funny N his forhead wrinkles up, don't know if that means he's computin or not computin... sometimes when he talks I wonder ifn he n swamp aint the same person... easy Swamp... just kiddin.

Local 47 Friday... 17 Standin Calls left over... an unmerciful chunck of them are on DWP Property... It really ain't so bad, It will just take me a little longer to git home at this rate... When I git a years pay for I home I'm out... there's gigs where I could make more money but they are a little more intense than the Line construction antique shop A.K.A. D.W.P

[CenterPointEX]

Moved back to Saticoy, Sweet Pea N Commando wer happy to see us
... 27 standin calls ....Goin home four days fer Easter... caint wait... JR said he's cummin soon as his hand heals...

[CenterPointEX]

Well Sweat Pea got wound up a little too tight N the guys in the white suites came N took him away so's we is lookin for another foreman again... 18 calls left over today but they didn't say where they was so's... either he's tired of talkin or they are tryin to avoid musical chairs guys waitin fer their spot n listinin fer it on the Hot Line... Talked to JR he's said he's had it wit NHPL n soon as he's healed he's buggin this way... But he was on the trail ride to the Houston Livestock Show N he sounded like he had at least a case in em... N you thought it was against the law to ride a horse on a public highway wit a case in you... Texans git a little differant when the Rodeo comes to town... Make it down there ifn ya ever git a chance... It's unique in the world... Well Ollie drew the short straw cause Stan was a better fit fer the commando SweetPea left me...
That fellers wide open... Don't know ifn bein raked by a facile spur would even bother him.... But what ever he does gets done quicker than shoot gits open when ya nod yer head... "Outside" That was my QUE... QSL Mr Tony Olivas... I miss ya feller, xxxooo

[CenterPointEX]

Well the boys are gettin to the wifey back home... They r 17 N 18 N they is doin what dem kind do... Ya know tickets, girls, stuff... They r runnin a little wild since I ain't there to step on em... N I got some adopted ones too... Dem adopted boys done went way off the Radar. Dey call me Pappa CPX back home... Whats a feller ta do Mr. Bilski? Ya feellin good about yerself yet? I kinda reckon you are feelin that the BAD outweighs the GOOD so ya ain't never gonna ketch up... Yer only way in is Jahid... Ya know like dem Arabs... It was the only chance they had at makin the grade... Local 47 18 standin Calls left... I'm goin home fer Easter N Whoopie! Local 66 hands ifn yer lookin to do it, give me a buzz...

Local 47 18 standin Calls left

[CenterPointEX]

Dis Forman bussiness ain't all it's cracked up to be. Grown men oughta jus jump in der N do what dey was hired fer...Naw it ain't stand around till the Dude tells ya to quit standin around. At least move around like California does...Gives the appearance of progress...24 Standin CAlls left on Friday 13 fer DWP prop. I dun got a couple of hits, gigs lookin fer hands...Is it time yet... Nah... I'm havin too much fun yet... Talked to Freddie... He's chillin in Houston ridin out his grub from the last trip out... Hope to join him soon.. Tim Called N give me some info... he's still wit Asplaugn doin the asbestos thing... I'm tinkin Stan has a bad heart... Just hope he don't drop dead on my time... Would that be the way to check out though?... doin linework?... What a fate... Naw, I know better... there ain't no such thing as fate... Anybody checks out doin linework, musta pissed the "Big Dude" off....
Cousin Jen came over so Mom N Pop could play tug a war... It was comfortin fer her to hear from an objective view?... I'm tinkin about gettin me a wet suit N a Surf Board.... Dem Waves R callin my name...

[CenterPointEX]

Well I'm back at the home twenty chillin... LIfe is good... will be catchin the big steel bird back to the grind on Monday... I'm over half way home on the money... Bought me an F350 wit the powerstroke n a fifth wheel, I believe I got a twenty eight footer lined up... Goin to the church at four a.m. to pray in our two day day vigil we do every easter... any requests?

[LostArt]

Yeah, put one in for my son-in-law Ex.

Oh, what color and year is the F350?

[CenterPointEX]

Back in Houston for ten days... my family and I do some volunteer work with the M.S. 150... we have been doing this gig for thirteen years... then this commin weekend I do a Christian Men's retreat... We camp out N have a fishin tournament at Lake Whitney between Dallas N Houston... It's a blast... My boys are goin wit me this year fer da first time...It's like a like a little fishin... a little story tellin... a little Bible study... a lot a beer drinkin, cause were Lutherans N dats what Lutherans do... Lutheran Soda's I tink dey call em... N a lot of worshipin God... cause were Lutherans... N dats what Lutherans do...AMen?...
L.A.'s Son in Law is on a slow boat back to da U.S.... Amen?[

[Swamprat]

then this commin weekend I do a Christian Men's retreat... We camp out N have a fishin tournament at Lake Whitney between Dallas N Houston... It's a blast... My boys are goin wit me this year fer da first time...It's like a like a little fishin... a little story tellin... a little Bible study... a lot a beer drinkin, cause were Lutherans N dats what Lutherans do... Lutheran Soda's I tink dey call em... N a lot of worshipin God... cause were Lutherans... N dats what Lutherans do...AMen?... [

"A Mens Christian retreat"...Fishin, Drinkin a Lot of beer and a "little" bible study, and bringin the kids!

Damn, I got to become a Lutheran! :-)

I'd say if your pastor read that post, you and him would be havin a "talk"...about your "blog". "Lutheran Soda's I tink dey call em"

You're a hoot CP. :-) Praise the Lord.

[LostArt]

You Lutherans can drink? And it's "okay"???? :D I think the Baptist just don't drink on Sundays. Heh.



L.A.'s Son in Law is on a slow boat back to da U.S.... Amen?

You gotta big AMEN! I'm tickled pink that he is coming back. Thanks for mentioning him Ex.

[CenterPointEX]

Martin Luther was quite the "reluctant dragon"... He grew up in the only church around at da time... He was strong in da faith, N was da Catholic's Catholic. He crossed all his t's N dotted all his I's... But ya see the Church had been hijacked by some Roman Honcho's. They wouldn't let da folks read da Bible cause if'n da folks knew what it said... Rome would no longer be able ta control it's masses... Pun intended...(still today few CAtholics are well versed in Scripture) What Rome set up was a faith plus works salvation... meaning to be saved N go ta Heaven, ya had ta have faith in da redeemin work of Christ on da Cross, N ya also had to have yer own works dat ya done to get in. Specific works outlined by the church in "Tradition"... "Tradition" was elevated to status of scripture... "Tradition" was then... and is now... a moving target... Martin even though he followed every rule to a tee, carried an overwhelming burden of guilt... as do all Catholics... Por Que dey never know when der good works have outwieghted der bad... Martin one day read da passage in Romans ... ....."Da wages of sin is death, but da free gift of God is eternal life thru Christ Jesus"... He went to da Honchos N said, Hey! have you seen dis?" They replied "If'n you try to tell dat to da Masses, we have no option but to silence you forever...or forever lose control..."
A lot of crap went down N Young Martin felt responsable... Bein German though he liked his German Soda's... a lot... He is accused by a lot of folks of bein a drunk... but never a Homo... as young Katherend could attest...
He used ta have thease keg parties... folks would come from miles around N sit around sippin on Soda's N talkin about God... Some of da folks took notes... those notes survive today in a collection called "Table Talks" It's an interestin read...
But the point of all dis is we are saved by faith in da finished work of Christ's death on da Cross which satisfied da law in payment fer our Sins... We are assured of salvation... the fruit of our faith will be works will be works... not vice versa... Some folks just cain't or won't accept dis...

[JackPineSavage]

CP I am truely hesitant to post on your blog because I know that I am totally out of my element talking about this. That being said do you think that the reseason that so many people are leaving the Cathlics to either Methodist or Lutherns is that the Caths are not willing to change thier a little less strict . I was listening to NPR today (ya I know awful leftist for a guy like me huh?) and they were saying that in South America in particular the flock is dwindling due to the message seems outdated and the Meths and Luths have a message that seems more rooted in the here and now. South America is really where the majority of the floock is today and if it's not looking good there where the people are ,shall we say simpler, how much longer does it have left ? thanks for your time with the uninformed. JP

[Swamprat]

Martin Luther was quite the "reluctant dragon"... He grew up in the only church around at da time... He was strong in da faith, N was da Catholic's Catholic. He crossed all his t's N dotted all his I's... But ya see the Church had been hijacked by some Roman Honcho's. They wouldn't let da folks read da Bible cause if'n da folks knew what it said... Rome would no longer be able ta control it's masses...

Point is CP, Martin Luther or not...
Different religions "interpert" and put their own spin on how THEY see DA scriptures or DA bible. DATS Duh problem.

God made 10 rules.

I like to call it "KISS". "Keep it simple stupid."

What's with all this eatin fish on Friday, or bangin your head on the ground 5 times a day? Politics of "The Faith".
We're right, your faith is wrong.

The "Man" gave 10 rules CP. I try my best to live by em.
Agnostic or not...he can judge me by the way I've lived my life. I don't need or agree with the Pulpit stuff in between.

"Kiss".

[LostArt]

Oh, but Swamp........don't forget the extras DAT DUH Man in the new scriptures had to say to kinda add to DEM DARE 10 rules.

Like............oh, love your neighbor, love your enemies....DAT sorta stuff.

[Swamprat]

Oh, but Swamp........don't forget the extras DAT DUH Man in the new scriptures had to say to kinda add to DEM DARE 10 rules.

Like............oh, love your neighbor, love your enemies....DAT sorta stuff.

What?

Now you're tellin me God's a LIBERAL!! Don't Push it LA....:-)

[CenterPointEX]

Different religions "interpert" and put their own spin on how THEY see DA scriptures or DA bible. DATS Duh problem.
The "Man" gave 10 rules CP. I try my best to live by em.
Agnostic or not...he can judge me by the way I've lived my life. "Kiss"
By the way Swamp Jesus reduced em to two... "Love the the Lord your God wit all yer heart, soul, N mind... N Love yer neighbor as yerself."


Ya see Swamp thats the problem ya got... The ten rules he gave ya... if'n ya break just one of em just one time... thats called sin... In Romans it says the wages of sin is death... hell fire N brimstone... thats what ya get... If'n God judges you or me by the way we lived our life... we are toast...But ya see God sent his Son to pay that penalty for you...But death couldn't hold him because he had no sin in him... But if'n you trust in Christ you passed thru death with him and will be raised to life in him... eternal life... your philosophy Swamp judgein by your word is that in the end if'n you good outweighs you bad you are in... like I pointed out above... problem is you can never be sure that that is the case... so you will live your life with that burden of... overwhelming guillt... The reason Catholics are leavin the faith is because they like Martin Luther are beginning to read their Bibles... N discovering that they don't have to live with that guilt... they can be sure of thier salvation apart from works... In what Christ did for them...
The fish... N da headbangin... N Hail Mary's...etc. those are folks who believe like you, that if'n they do enough works... the right works... they are good to go... If'n dat's da case What Christ did was not necessary or maybe not enough to save you... If'n you use Bible to interpret Bible you will never go wrong... the Bible never disagrees with itself... One could build a case from Judas, that if'n you felt bad about what you did you should hang yourself. You could pull a verse out of context and support that Biblicaly... But you see that interpretation would not agree with the rest of Scripture...
,,,Many denominations are moving away from the Bible as truth... they are replacing it with humanist values and so called truths that don't condem them for the way they live thier lives... The antiChrist will rise from just such a venue...
.....The Bible is unchanged in context from the earliest scripture to what we have now...I challenge you to provide evidence to the contrary... I know without a doubt that you will not be able to do so... I know... I have spent hours researching this... Any works based salvation Swamp is a one way ticket to Hell... I leave you with this question... "Is it possible to be sincere N be sincerly wrong?"...

[LostArt]

What?

Now you're tellin me God's a LIBERAL!! Don't Push it LA....:-)

LMAO!!! Oh my gosh! I spewed my water all over my computer you darn rascal!!

[Swamprat]

Ya see Swamp thats the problem ya got... The ten rules he gave ya... if'n ya break just one of em just one time... thats called sin... In Romans it says the wages of sin is death... hell fire N brimstone... thats what ya get... If'n God judges you or me by the way we lived our life... we are toast.

Naw man, I don't believe in a god like that. Your god is not the Christian forgiving God I was brought up with as a catholic as a kid. Maby guys like you are why I'm Agnostic.

I've "sined". Sorry for it. Ain't done it again. Black mark on my slate? Bein held against me for eternity? Don't think so. That's not the type of god I believe in.

Ya know, the more you talk about your god...the more I don't like him. I don't like bein called Toast for one mistake.
Aside from killing another human being in cold blood...now to me...THAT classifies as Toast.

Maby I'm just "Toast" CP. We'll see. I really ain't worried about it. I feel good about myself, and the way I've lived my life, and will continue to live my life.

"I leave you with this question... "Is it possible to be sincere N be sincerly wrong?"..."

Yes sir CP it is.

For Both of us. Can YOU think about the possibility that YOU might be wrong, honestly?

I do. Do you?
No.

[JackPineSavage]

Call me agnostic or the reincarnation of the anti Christ ifn ya whatns ta but what if wes alls wrong and wes git ta heaven and he seys yous alls rong an the cow worshipin sheep fuc\ers was the only one that had it rite .

Thats my problem with "orginized religion" is that so many of the "faithful followers" have no use for the views of others faiths.

I was raised a good Baptist switched to Luthern after I got married . Now I don't go at all cause I'm fed up with all the judgeing that people like you do CP. Sorry man just don't have any respect for anyone who judges someone else . You ain't the Allmighty it ain't yer place. What if the sheep fuc\ers were right and the God you thought you knew was just all in your head?

Huh maybe I just hit the nail on the head maybe God , faith , and rightusnes is just all in your head . Maybe it's not the building that you go into maybe it is the relationship that you have with whats-his-name (GOD,BUDDA,JAHOVA) .........

JP

[CenterPointEX]

Swamp how can you not accept Christ Sacrifice on the Cross as payment for your sins? I am not judgeing anyone, I am simply relaying the message of the Bible... Without exception everyone who has ever done so has been crucified in some form or fashion for doin so... Like I said, the Bible is unchanged in context from the earliest manuscripts till now... The Message is unchanged from Genisis to Revelation... The Message is we are all sinners from birth, because sin came into the world thru Adam, we deserve Gods just and eternal punishment... God provided a way around that in Jesus Christ his only Son. But those who refuse this, do it for the same reason Satan N his hosts fell... For the same reason Adam N Eve fell in the garden... It is best sumarized by Satan hisself in Genisis... "God don't want you to eat from the tree of knowledge of good evil cause he don't want you to be like him... If'n you partake you can be your own god and you won't need him...PRIDE... Folks don't want a savior... PRIDE...they want to save themselves... PRIDE...make up thier own rules... PRIDE...live however they want to... screw God or anyone else who would dare to suggest to them how to live their live's.... Pride! Calls the kettle black... I would dare say I also have been judged... the question is when you dudes judge me... what do you use for a rule that I might measure up to... I know the answer... I am held to your self righteous rule... Righteousness is knowin and doing what right accordin to God... Self Righteous is knowin and doin whats right accordin to self... Self is by nature relative... therefor your morality has to be relative... each to his own...
If''n I'm wrong... so what... I live a life loving, trying to love my neighbor as myself... big deal... nobody's hurt... N all the other socalled paths to salvation say without exception, that at the end if your good outwieghs your bad your ok... if'n not your toast... It's impossible for anyone to live a life in which thier good outweighs thier bad so anyone on that path is toast... so if''n I wrong about that we're all in the same boat anyway... except those who are gauronteed a spot in heave fer takin out infidels with an airplane N the like...

[Swamprat]

Huh maybe I just hit the nail on the head maybe God , faith , and rightusnes is just all in your head . Maybe it's not the building that you go into maybe it is the relationship that you have with whats-his-name (GOD,BUDDA,JAHOVA) ....

Ya know, I seem to remember somethin about that. "My temple is in yourself". Or somethin along those lines....

[LostArt]

I told myself that I wouldn't do this. But, you guys know me by now. I do research. No matter the subject.

Ya know, I seem to remember somethin about that. "My temple is in yourself". Or somethin along those lines....

KJV version: 1Cr 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and [that] the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
1Cr 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which [temple] ye are.

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NKJV version:
16 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? 17 If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.

[Swamprat]

I told myself that I wouldn't do this. But, you guys know me by now. I do research. No matter the subject.

KJV version: 1Cr 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and [that] the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
1Cr 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which [temple] ye are.

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NKJV version:
16 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? 17 If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.

Thank you Mam.
I knew I remembered somethin along those lines. Ya don't need a building to go to with a bunch of other people, or a "retreat", to pay respect to God.

Ya do it, or ya don't do it on your own.
It's "Your" call.

Ya either follow and believe in "The 10", or ya don't. Everything else is politics, and "social".

Wait....It's Friday!!! Shit, I had a steak!
Damn,.... forgot, there for a minute...
I USE to be a catholic.

[m_kohner]

wow....this is funny stuff...keep it up....mike

[CenterPointEX]

"Let us not give up meeting togather..."

"I pray that you may be active in sharing your faith
so that you will have a full understanding
of every good thing we have in Christ. "

"I Long to see, so that I may impart to you some spiritual gift to make you strong... that is that you and I may be mutually encouraged by each others faith... "

"Where two or three are gathered in my name there I am also"

In the book of Revelation who were the letters written to?

Did Jesus go to church?

What is the Biblical definition of Church?

Are the Koran, the book of Morman, N the Bible compatible... or are they mutually exclusive?

[Swamprat]

Swamp how can you not accept Christ Sacrifice on the Cross as payment for your sins? I am not judgeing anyone, I am simply relaying the message of the Bible... Without exception everyone who has ever done so has been crucified in some form or fashion for doin so... Like I said, the Bible is unchanged in context from the earliest manuscripts till now... The Message is unchanged from Genisis to Revelation... The Message is we are all sinners from birth, because sin came into the world thru Adam, we deserve Gods just and eternal punishment.

Sorry CP, wasen't ignorin ya, just missed that post.

Well, actually, by what I've read and heard, there are many different "interpertations" of what is written in the bible. Not to mention the fact that it had to be translated god knows how many times to even GET to a sembalance of English. I've lived in the middle east for a number of years, I know a bit about the culture. "Interpertations", widely vary...from tribe to tribe.

As for bein born "all sinners"?....I just can't look at a little "freshie" as I like to call em, and think "god" holds a grudge against this completely innocent life.
That's called "The sins of the Father", and I don't believe in that either.

So, I guess in answer to your question CP. I don't have, and never will have Blind Faith.

I'm a very logical person...maby to my regret, but that's the way I am. I'm not sayin I'd have to put my fingers in the holes in his hands, but I don't base faith on just scripture, and the "word" from the pulpet. The feeling of "God" and the belief in him, is within you...or it ain't. I guess agnostic don't classify as believing in god to you. You're all hung up on Jesus Christ.

Last I checked, that was God's son. Ya tellin me I can't talk to god? I need to go thru an "intermediary"? Even when I was catholic, I prayed to God, not Jesus. I would drop a prayer to Mary Mom every now and then though. Always liked to keep on her good side.

Sorry man...don't get it I guess, but god bless you in your beliefs.

[CenterPointEX]

That's what I been trying to tell ya Swamp... you made up you own religion... you believe whatever suits you... N you don't want, nor will you let any God dictate how you live, believe or think... therein lies the problem... cause if'n each man makes up what God is in his own heart... then there cain't be just one God... You just don't get it... If the Bible ain't true... then there is no truth... Can't you see Swamp if'n there is no truth, then nothing matters... Swamp can do whatever he wants... I kin do what ever I want... cause at the end of the day none of it really matters... I repeat myself... the Big Bang reveses itself... N then there is no memory or record of mankind... so the only thing left to do is what ever floats your boat right now...
... If'n you had read the Bible you wouldn't be sayin the bull about the "interpertations". I challenge you to give me just one passage that you believe, or someone else believes has changed... just one that does not agree with the whole of scripture. You won't be able to do it... You qualified that statement with, "I heard"... now Swamp folks kin say all kind of crazy stuff N you kin hear it... does that make it true?
...I know, I know... In Swamps religion truth is whatever each persson decides it is... so your answer is "Yes" for that person it is true... unless that person is a Bible believing Christian, in which case the answer is "NO!"

Swamp prays to Mary? Does Swamp pray to wood statues, N bricks, N trees? I hate to be the one ta break it to ya Swamp but if you're prayin to a tree... that tree ain't gonna help ya... You're just wastin breath... just like anyone prayin to Budda or Alla, or the great architect of the Universe... Karma dude!

So tell me Swamp... what do you do with your guilt?... If'n you say you have no guilt, then I'll have to call you a baldface liar... N you know that's the truth!

[Swamprat]

So tell me Swamp... what do you do with your guilt?... If'n you say you have no guilt, then I'll have to call you a baldface liar... N you know that's the truth!

I'll tell ya My truth CP.
It's been fun talkin to ya, but your "faith", and my Logic really don't go too good together.

I GET your faith man, to my way of thinkin. You just can't get any of my "Logic", cause you are blinded by faith.
That's a good thing for you. God bless ya man.

I got faith "God" sees me as a good person who has lived a good life, and no sir, I don't carry around guilt as baggage. And I have never had any soul hurting guilt.

So I guess that makes me a bsldfaced liar , according to you. But it ain't the truth.

[JackPineSavage]

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Swamp prays to Mary? Does Swamp pray to wood statues, N bricks, N trees? I hate to be the one ta break it to ya Swamp but if you're prayin to a tree... that tree ain't gonna help ya... You're just wastin breath... just like anyone prayin to Budda or Alla, or the great architect of the Universe... Karma dude!




You know CP I have alot of respect for the strength of your convictions. That being said what if some poor child born in India into a good hindu family that worship their God in their way and lives their life in his name . What if that child dies at birth . Are you trying to tell me that child DESERVES to burn in hell because he and his family didn't worship YOUR GOD. That is my problem with you is that you have no respect for any other religion. I asked you before and you didn't answer so I will ask again , what if you get to those pearly gates and you find out that the God that you worshiped all your life was the wrong one , it turns out that you should have picked the Jewish God. What if you picked the right one and you arrive at the same time as that little Hindu baby how you gonna feel when that innocent soul burns in eternal hell.
See what I'm saying is that why can't you addmit the legitimacy of other religions ? Just because it don't work for you why can't it work for someone else?
Heck what ifn ya wuz born inta a Jew family ?
Ain't it better to live a good life governed by whatever book and whatever God leads you down a road to rightousness than to listen to an extemist like yourself who thinks that there is only one church and one way to worship?
JP

[barehander]

Amen JPS...................






From a "Born Agai