John Schantzen, ex-FPL union man

[OLE' SORE KNEES]

http://unionfacts.com/unions/unionOfficersDetail.cfm?ID=116&OID=1384966&fname=JOHN&lname=SCHANTZEN

[Orgnizdlbr]

Just wondering why you would post that Knees.........

[77liner]

We have a lot of members that make a lot more than his salary!

[tolex42]

http://unionfacts.com/unions/unionOfficersDetail.cfm?ID=116&OID=1384966&fname=JOHN&lname=SCHANTZEN


Why don't you find out what the top officers in your company are paid (if it's not a secret) includeing stock options, bonus', etc. You'll probably find it is much more than what Schantzen recieves.

[Orgnizdlbr]

Here ya go........

http://www.aflcio.org/corporatewatch/paywatch/ceou/database.cfm?tkr=FPL&pg=1&CFID=1022283&CFTOKEN=89936918

[shaun]

I'd have to work 141 years to make what the CEO of FPL made in '06. (no o.t.) That's fookin crazy! As far as the Union rep, I'd have to work a little over two years (no o.t.) to make his salary. Jeez..................... :eek:

[OLE' SORE KNEES]

There is a reason, this individual sold us out a few contracts back, you 'd just have to be there, some have already responded that knew him.

[WONTSTAYSILENT]

Keep in mind boys, that EVERY single penny a local rep or I.O. rep or I.O. VP receives in wages, benefits, mileage, meals, flights, hotel, etc. etc. counts as "salary" according to the Department of Labor.

I can't speak as to what kind of a Rep or V.P. he is, but it's likely his actual salary is in the 100-120 range as the other stuff adds up pretty quickly for most union officials because of required attendance at conferences, servicing locals, etc.

Any lineman on good overtime jobs for a year in an area with a good wage and benefit package would likely see total compensation of $150K to $200K or more. We've had some linemen making 15K to 20K a month in wages only on some jobs in the Midwest.

All Union Reps are not created equal, but anyone who buys into the propaganda that unionfacts.com spews is fooling themselves.

Edit: I stand corrected on his salary. I looked it up and his actual salary is what is quoted on the link. I stand by the rest of my statements.

[tolex42]

Role of Center for Union Facts in the Anti-Union Network
The Center is the latest public relations campaign and front group devised by “notorious D.C. lobbyist” and veteran spin doctor Richard “Rick” Berman with his firm, Berman and Company.

The Center for Union Facts is a front group focused on damaging the public image of unions, depressing workers’ rights, pushing legislation that would make it more difficult for workers to join unions, and furthering an anti-union business climate.

Berman earned his status as one of The Hill’s top lobbyists, along with Jack Abramoff, by working on behalf of unpopular clients like the tobacco, alcohol, and fast food industries. Berman’s campaigns have attempted to relax drunk driving laws, argue obesity is not a public health issue, prevent increases in the federal or state minimum wage, and attack advocacy groups like Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD).

The New Mouthpiece for the Anti-Union Network
When Berman & Company officially launched the Center on Feb. 13, 2006, Berman kicked off its anti-union public relations campaign by orchestrating a ‘protest’ and media opportunity in front of the headquarters of the AFL-CIO, buying pricey full-page ads in The New York Times, The Washington Post,and The Wall Street Journal. Berman planned to spend $5 million on an initial launch of print, radio, television, and internet ads to spread the campaign’s anti-union messages to national and regional markets.

In May 2006, the Center produced a sensationalist television ad featuring actors posed as unhappy union members, and bought airtime for it nationally on CNN, FOX News, and NBC. Yet a number of stations refused to air the commercial, determining that the Center for Union Facts had crossed the line. As one station manager explained about its decision to reject the ad: "We believe that the spot is designed to be inflammatory, incendiary and panders to the lowest common denominator stereotypes about unions and union officials."

In August 2006, the Center launched a new $1 million television, radio, and print ad campaign in Michigan, Montana, Nevada, and Oregon, which attacked public employees, implying they are overpaid and ineffective. Berman’s antics drew immediate scrutiny in the press and by government officials. Montana Attorney General Mike McGrath challenged the ads, calling them “inaccurate” and “demeaning” and the Helena Independent Record called out Berman’s attempts to disconnect the ads from a controversial state ballot measure.

Berman was caught flip-flopping about the rationale for the ad placements in the four states, which all have radical spending-cap measures pending on the fall ballot. While Berman initially claimed there was no special reason why the states were chosen - and that they definitely weren’t connected to any multi-state political strategy - he finally admitted the ballot measures “were a factor” in choosing the states. These measures just happen to be bankrolled by the fringe libertarian group Americans for Limited Government, run by Howie Rich, a wealthy, but relatively unknown real estate mogul. The measures also just happen to be opposed by unions, among others. The media revealed that a Berman staffer recently made a presentation on the ads at a conference of Americans for Limited Government, and although a Berman spokesperson confirmed the presentation occurred, she tried to deny any connection the Center has to the group.

Berman has tried to insert himself as the new high-profile mouthpiece for the anti-union network. Through these large ad buys and a multi-million dollar budget, the Center has acquired a sizable amount of earned media. Berman has authored op-eds for the Center in the following conservative newspapers: The Washington Times, The Examiner (DC edition),and the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Berman has also been quoted as an “expert” on union issues in The New York Times, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, and in wire articles prepared by United Press International.

[billfoster67]

The IO should deal with Propaganda, politics and BS. The locals should be taking care of the men. Have a good dispatch procedure. Do what locals should do. The men should work hard. And not have to worry about Drama and BS in the yards. The locals should back the stewards, teach them the Weingartner Rules, the handling of a grievance, visit the worksites and see whats going on and ask whats going on. Its not getting done.

The last BA visited me was at Southern Cal Edison JD (good man). And god bless Jeff Johnstone, if you'd call he would visit- he supported me as a steward. 71, the BAs visit the sites (they did when I was there). 126 they visited and checked things out, a lot of good men there. A lot of other places its just a hiring hall- I should just hold a shovel and sit out in front of it. And it really grosses me out when they (BAs and Business managers) where chinos, golf shirts and penny loafers- UGGGGGGGH.

[OLE' SORE KNEES]

The IO should deal with Propaganda, politics and BS. The locals should be taking care of the men. Have a good dispatch procedure. Do what locals should do. The men should work hard. And not have to worry about Drama and BS in the yards. The locals should back the stewards, teach them the Weingartner Rules, the handling of a grievance, visit the worksites and see whats going on and ask whats going on. Its not getting done.

The last BA visited me was at Southern Cal Edison JD (good man). And god bless Jeff Johnstone, if you'd call he would visit- he supported me as a steward. 71, the BAs visit the sites (they did when I was there). 126 they visited and checked things out, a lot of good men there. A lot of other places its just a hiring hall- I should just hold a shovel and sit out in front of it. And it really grosses me out when they (BAs and Business managers) where chinos, golf shirts and penny loafers- UGGGGGGGH.


When the IBEW was founded it has purpose ,now don't get me wrong I am Union and have worked in different trades as Union but what gets me is when you have a System Council that tells you what you need to have without regard to the membership but only because it makes thier job easier when negotiations arrive with the company !!! I personally feel some of the negotiating committees across America has turned things into political machines instead of "for the good of the union" . Unions need to wake up to the voice of the workers and especially LINEMAN...........take it or leave it this is how I feel.........
http://www.ibew1613.org/stewards/IBEW_history.html

Ole' Sore Knees............still climbin'