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Trampbag
05-29-2007, 08:54 PM
Court rules Australian gay bar has a right to ban heterosexuals and lesbians

The Associated Press

Tuesday, May 29, 2007


MELBOURNE, Australia: An Australian gay bar has won the right to turn away heterosexuals and lesbians to provide a safe environment for the men partying inside.

A tribunal in southern Victoria state ruled earlier this week that the owners of the Melbourne-based Peel Hotel could ban straight men, women and even lesbians from entering the premises to stop "sexually based insults and violence" toward its own patrons.

In her findings, the tribunal's deputy president, Cate McKenzie, said Monday that to allow large numbers of non-gays onto the premises could "undermine or destroy" the convivial atmosphere the Peel Hotel sought to create for gay men.

McKenzie said there was evidence that some of the bar's straight patrons were going to the Peel Hotel to deride the predominantly gay customers for entertainment.

"To regard the gay male patrons of the venue as providing an entertainment or spectacle to be stared at, as one would at an animal at a zoo, devalues and dehumanizes them," she was quoted by News Ltd. newspapers as saying.

The tribunal granted the Peel Hotel an exemption to Australia's Equal Opportunities Act — which bars discrimination on race, religion or sexuality — saying it sought "to give gay men a space in which they may, without inhibition, meet, socialize and express physical attraction to each other in a non-threatening atmosphere."

The pub will now be able to advertise that it will turn away straight people, and its door staff will be able to ask people whether they are gay before allowing them inside.

The head of Victoria's Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commission applauded the decision, saying it protects the rights of gay people.

"These exemptions exist to protect groups in the community who are subject to being treated less favorably, or treated unfairly compared with other groups," she told Australian Broadcasting Corp. radio Tuesday. "In this case, what we know is that there are many options for heterosexuals males to enjoy a safe, social environment."


Kinda sounds like Heterophobia to me.

Squizzy
05-29-2007, 11:45 PM
Saw this on the news, what a load of **** they are always screaming discrimination what do you call banning the majority of the population from a bar? The double standards of the courts never ceases to amaze me not that I would want to go there I would worry that the "head" waiter would ask if he could "push my stool in":eek:

Alan Mac
05-30-2007, 03:42 AM
I saw this yesterday too and thought the same. It gets me that a minority group cannot be discriminated against but they can discriminate against others.

A bit like the MOBO awards, Music Of Black Origin. OK, I got no problem with that but can you imagine trying to hold the music of white origin awards!

Worlds gone crazeee!

Mac

BigClive
05-30-2007, 07:21 AM
I'm with a union called BECTU (Broadcast, Entertainment, Cinematograph and Theatre Union) purely because they provide a specialist liability cover that I need for one of my primary jobs in the year. (Power and lighting at Edinburgh Military Tattoo). They have a special division for black members and arrange special "move on up" sessions where ethnic minorities are given private meetings with prominent employers in the entertainment industry with a view to creating "equality" by ensuring a mathematically exact representation of all cultures in the industry. In my eyes that IS discrimination. If it wasn't for the specialist liability cover I wouldn't associate myself with the union.

BigClive
05-30-2007, 07:32 AM
A tribunal in southern Victoria state ruled earlier this week that the owners of the Melbourne-based Peel Hotel could ban straight men, women and even lesbians from entering the premises to stop "sexually based insults and violence" toward its own patrons.


I occasionally go into gay bars because they generally have a good atmosphere and play good music. I don't really believe that they have had straights going in and harassing the gays, since generally the homophobes steer well clear of gay bars. It's more likely the patrons want to dress up in their faux bondage outfits and in doing so make themselves look a bit of a spectacle in the process.

I really don't understand why they specifically want to ban lesbians either. I thought gay was gay and that the ideal venue for lesbians would be a gay bar. That said, in Glasgow there used to be a female-only lesbian bar (I don't know if there still is) and there's definitely one in Brighton called the Candy Bar which generally has two large female bouncers outside to deflect men.

I guess this is no worse than the male only golf-clubs or the freemasons.

22900013A
05-30-2007, 04:48 PM
Hmm, I know there is a club in Birmingham (UK) that is men-only. Im not sure how they test if you are gay though...

BigClive
05-30-2007, 05:35 PM
There's a picture of Pamela Anderson on the front door. If you look at her **** a camera detects it and locks the door. :D

22900013A
05-30-2007, 06:18 PM
There's a picture of Pamela Anderson on the front door. If you look at her **** a camera detects it and locks the door. :D

HAHAHAHAH! :D :D