Mr. Batts

[Dave@PSE&G]

Steve, are these the *******s that your rider group deals with at the military funerals?
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=685022061

[linemanfrog]

They should be covered in **** and shot for stinking. I am glad that I have not had to personally encounter these type of people, and to think they use God's name to justify such behavior. The only good thing is that God has reserved a special place for this type of individual where the temperature is a constant HOT HOT HOT

[Viperexaf]

They'll get what's coming to them, hopefully sooner rather then later. Just sucks these people are pissin on the very military that is protecting their stupid asses to picket a funeral. I say deport their asses to another country if they hate things here so much. Then again send em to iraq would prolly be better.

[LINETRASH]

As a rule I steer clear of politics and religion.

Even I was insulted by this.

These people are twisted and brainwashed.

I suggets a fire hose next time....

[Orgnizdlbr]

I am and will always be a proponent of the First Amendment and the rights it sets forth, that being said IMHO these people have no legal right to disrupt a solemn ceremony.....if it was a loved one of mine who was being dishonored by these scum, I just might test the "Justifiable Homicide" defense.

[Viperexaf]

wouldn't be justifable homicide to it with me, i've had one nephew in both afghan and iraq both and he managed to come back ok, i got another one going over to iraq in aug, heaven forbid if something happens to him and these people show up, they'll be havin a nice surprise waitin for them.

[loodvig]

I don't care what your politics are...........

THAT ****'s, just WRONG. I won't even get started here...
It would be a long rant.

I agree 100% If I saw that I'd do something real stupid!

[PA BEN]

Those people are wrong, this is very bad. How come the liberal media doesn’t report on this? It takes Fox News? If it wasn’t for soldiers dying for the freedom of speech they wouldn’t have a venue. :mad:

[tolex42]

Those people are wrong, this is very bad. How come the liberal media doesn’t report on this? It takes Fox News? If it wasn’t for soldiers dying for the freedom of speech they wouldn’t have a venue. :mad:

Actually, this story was on CNN and all three of the network evening news programs.

These people do not represent the liberal left or the religious right. They are a bunch of kooks that are trying to get their faces on TV. I'm against war, especially this war in Iraq. But these people are way, way over the line. To protest at a soldiers funeral is lower than a snakes belly.

Unfortunately there have been to many religious kooks in this world. From Jim Jones, the Waco mad man, I think his name was Koresh, to innumerable cults that are usually lead by weird egotistical, losers.

[CHICAGO HAND.]

This Country Was Founded By Religious Fanatics With Guns, Thats Why I Love It So Much.

[Dave@PSE&G]

Battman, at times you come across as a bitter, angry man. I have a new found respect for you, because anyone who takes time away from their own lives and families to neutralize a group of scumbags like these nut jobs is ok in my book. I've seen you post about this in the past, and you filled us in with the sleezy details of what you were up against. Until I saw it myself I had no idea just how twisted these freaks are. You and your riders are doing a good and necessary thing, keep at it. -- Dave

[graybeard]

Been on 7 missions and they were at 4 of them. They were so loud at one that we had to start the bikes to drownd them out. What an awfull way to use your FREE SPEECH PAID WITH THE BLOOD OF THE PEOPLE THEY ARE PROTESTING.

[LostArt]

What good people do.
http://www.militarytimes.com/multimedia/video/hancock/

What a wonderful moving thing to do! God bless her loving heart!

Thanks for sharing that Steve.

[22900013A]

There was a documentary on UK TV some while ago about this group, Louis Theroux was in it. he couldn't get his head around them and I dare say neither could anyone watching - bunch of complete nut jobs in my opinion.

[scammy]

if they come to ohio,,,they might get hurt,,,,, its a little different here in sw ohio,,,,we love our boys here,,,scammy

[BigClive]

Hmmmm! So they have their own religion of which most of the members are from their large inbred family. They have websites for the following:-

God hates fags. (I'm not surprised, I once tried smoking and it was awful.)
God hates America. (Well that's reasonable enough.) :D
God hates Canada. (But the Americans beat him to it.)
God hates Sweden. (Apparently his IKEA seat burst while he was sitting on it.)

I think we'd better register www.godhateslinemen.com before they get it.

Someone really need to go and disconnect their power.

[BigClive]

There is a contact form on their website if anyone wants to send them a little message. They do however state that any death threats will be forwarded to the FBI. I do hope they forward the bit about smashing their skulls open with a giant dildo.

I'm not sure they'll like the suggestion that we breed bible thumpers so that there is always a dependable source of guilt free fuel to power hells night clubs with.

[boyakasha]

But wouldn't it just be nice....to wade into those *******s with ball bats...
swingin.

:mad: :D

F#$%&*$ Oath rat iam there with ya , "Batter up play ball":eek:

[BigClive]

F#$%&*$ Oath rat iam there with ya , "Batter up play ball":eek:

Uh oh. I hope CP-Ex has his hard hat on. ;)

[Koga]

the info. I wasn't sure I was looking at a legit site.

Koga

[CenterPointEX]

Now the true heart of Mr. Batts speaks... sans hard hats...

[BigClive]

So tell me CP. If you went to support your religious group in an event like this and they asked you to hold a placard that read "Thank God for dead soldiers" would you hold it?

What is your stance in this area?

[BigClive]

Uh oh. The religious campaigners didn't do too well here. The one on the left appears to be wearing his smile upside down. :rolleyes:

I can even keep this post on topic... Note the brace for the poles guy wire. The Australian boys seemed to use a lot of these even when the wires weren't crossing pavements.

http://www.emanator.demon.co.uk/homo.jpg

[PA BEN]

We call that a sidewalk guy:cool:

[LostArt]

We call that a sidewalk guy:cool:

LMAO!!!!

Heh. PA Ben's a live wire, ain't he????

hehehehehe........

[LostArt]

No, actually it's a sidewalk guy. You ain't lookin at the POLE LA.

Now the ******* with the sign, is just that. An ******* with a sign.

Oh yes I got it Swamp! You just don't think a dumb girl like me can get TWO meanings! :p I know what a guy wire is and they make those around here.

Well, I took it as two meanings. Okaaaaay! So, it wasn't all that funny! But, I thought it was. http://www.avowners.com/forum/smileys/doh001.gif

[BigClive]

We call that a sidewalk guy:cool:

Well apparently in Australia they call it an "anywhere we like guy". One difference. Theirs weren't at right angles to the pole. They were at an intermediate angle to reduce the downward pressure on the guys bracket.

[boyakasha]

No, actually it's a sidewalk guy. You ain't lookin at the POLE LA.

Now the ******* with the sign, is just that. An ******* with a sign.

No its called an outrigger stay here in OZ.

[BigClive]

OK. I guess you guys will know better than me. :D

I did see a lot of them about. And not just across sidewalks/pavements.

[CenterPointEX]

So tell me CP. If you went to support your religious group in an event like this and they asked you to hold a placard that read "Thank God for dead soldiers" would you hold it? I would hold one that read "Thank God for Soldiers who have laid down their lives protecting the inalienable rights given to us by our Creator\God."

[Budda]

Who does she think she is...We gave her right to vote, fly the flag and fredom, as a soldier we earned the right to be draped under it. If it wasn't for the soldier she would screwed. maybe we should deport her to a dictator who hates females.

[loner]

why so upset? liberals/democrats,do what ever they want right? where was your outcry over cindy sheehan?oh,one more thing,where is the draft you personally guaranteed if bush was reelected?

[loner]

i see your sexual preference is still blowing men.is that what you and your friends do when you dress up in your biker leathers?if you cant kick start your harley then what? have batts blow start it.

[Koga]

leave well enough alone could ya ! As far as the Patriot Guard, If you don't see the importance of that service to the fallen soldiers and thier families then you can kiss my ass, I really don't give a ****.

Koga

[Dave@PSE&G]

Swamp and Battman,
I was working on the 4th and read an op-ed piece that sort of goes along with your discussion. Well, at least enough to perpetuate it a little further...
Every illegal who was protesting and carrying signs written in Spanish should read this. Now hopefully the link works. I may have to get LA to fix it if it doesn't.:rolleyes:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07042007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/a_nation_of_laws_opedcolumnists_michelle_malkin.ht m

[LostArt]

A NATION OF LAWS

REVIVING THE 'MELTING POT'


July 4, 2007 -- AMNESTY is dead. Now, let's talk about the other "A" word. It's the word and the concept completely abandoned during the immigration debate: assimilation.


Over the last year, hundreds of thousands of illegal-alien demonstrators took to the streets lobbying for amnesty. Marchers waved "Amnestia Ahora!" placards in one hand, the flags of their native countries in the other. Open-borders strategists quickly replaced the foreign flags with Old Glory after militant activists caused a public backlash last year. National newspapers played dutiful propagandists and splashed patriotic photo-ops of the "undocumented" masses wrapped in red, white and blue to drum up sympathy.

But now that they've lost their amnesty fight, will they still embrace American symbols and traditions? Or was it all for show? And what of all that talk of illegal aliens being willing to study citizenship and civics? And take English classes? Why must they be bribed with the promise of a temporary guest-worker visa and mass governmental pardon in order to adapt to our way of life? When did assimilation become the means and not an end in itself?

The inflection point can perhaps be traced to the moment when politicians were permitted to invoke the "America-is-a-nation-of-immigrants" platitude as a mindless justification for open borders.
The fact is: We are not a "nation of immigrants." This is both a factual error and a warm-and-fuzzy non sequitur. Eighty-five percent of the residents currently in the United States were born here. Sure, we are almost all descendants of immigrants. But we are not a "nation of immigrants."

(Isn't it funny, by the way, how the politically correct multiculturalists who claim we are a "nation of immigrants" are so insensitive toward Native American Indians, Native Alaskans, Native Hawaiians and descendants of black slaves who did not "immigrate" here in any common sense of the word?)

Even if we were a "nation of immigrants," it does not explain why we should be against sensible immigration control. And if the open-borders advocates would actually read American history instead of revising it, they would see that the Founding Fathers were emphatically insistent on protecting the country against indiscriminate mass immigration. They insisted on assimilation as a pre-condition, not an afterthought. Historian John Fonte assembled their wisdom:
* George Washington, in a letter to John Adams, stated that immigrants should be absorbed into American life so that "by an intermixture with our people, they, or their descendants, get assimilated to our customs, measures, laws: in a word soon become one people." </B></I>


* In a 1790 speech to Congress on the naturalization of immigrants, James Madison stated that America should welcome the immigrant who could assimilate, but exclude the immigrant who could not readily "incorporate himself into our society."

* In 1802, Alexander Hamilton wrote: "The safety of a republic depends essentially on the energy of a common national sentiment; on a uniformity of principles and habits; on the exemption of the citizens from foreign bias and prejudice; and on that love of country which will almost invariably be found to be closely connected with birth, education and family."

* Hamilton further warned that "The United States have already felt the evils of incorporating a large number of foreigners into their national mass; by promoting in different classes different predilections in favor of particular foreign nations, and antipathies against others, it has served very much to divide the community and to distract our councils. It has been often likely to compromise the interests of our own country in favor of another.

"The permanent effect of such a policy will be, that in times of great public danger there will be always a numerous body of men, of whom there may be just grounds of distrust; the suspicion alone will weaken the strength of the nation, but their force may be actually employed in assisting an invader."

* The survival of the American republic, Hamilton maintained, depends upon "the preservation of a national spirit and a national character." "To admit foreigners indiscriminately to the rights of citizens the moment they put foot in our country would be nothing less than to admit the Grecian horse into the citadel of our liberty and sovereignty."

We are not a nation of immigrants. We are first and foremost a nation of laws. The U.S. Constitution does not say that the paramount duty of government is to "celebrate diversity" or to "embrace multiculturalism" or to give "every willing worker" in the world a job. The Preamble to the U.S. Constitution says the Constitution was established "to provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty."

As our Founding Fathers recognized, fulfilling these fundamental duties is impossible without an orderly immigration and entrance system that discriminates in favor of those willing, as George Washington put it, to "get assimilated to our customs, measures [and] laws." Lest there be any doubt this Independence Day about the perils of ignoring the Founding Fathers' advice, I invite you to contemplate the abyss at Ground Zero. "The safety of the republic" is indeed at stake.

[LostArt]

Great Post LostArt

Well....uh....thanks Steve, but it's just the link that Dave posted buddy. :D

[loner]

this is a letter i wrote to my local paper .the issue before the week of the 4th always has a paper flag in it to display,anyway,here it is.when i opened my paper something fell out that i did not recognize right away.it was made of heavy paper,it had seven red stripes,six white,in the upper left hand corner was a blue rectangle.there were 50 neatly arranged white stars on it.i sat on the couch staring at it. my 18 year old son came into the room and asked what i was doing. i explained ,i kind of remember this but not completely.he said,dad,its the flag of the united states of america,you know the country we live in.you must be mistaken i replied,for most of the people i come in contact with speak a language other than english(the language that used to be spoken here).i really dont see this flag much anymore instead i see ones that are green white and red with a snake and eagle. he said to me .this is what happened,so many of these people came here and continue to keep coming .business,schools,employers ,etc. have to adapt to there language to stay in business.schools are so overrun that they have to have classes in there language.have you been to the dmv or the hospital lately? that is all you hear.the govt. will not stop it or even try because of the potential votes.democrat,republican,doesnt matter.i just shook my head and asked, what should i do with this.his replay,you may as well put it in your box of memories,thats what it will soon be, a distant memory.

[LostArt]

Steve, what flag are you holding up in the pic on the left? I can't tell.

[Dave@PSE&G]

Well....uh....thanks Steve, but it's just the link that Dave posted buddy. :D

LA,
The link actually worked, so I guess I'm learning!:confused: I could have copied and pasted, but that's cheating. Actually, it's probaly just easier, huh? Thanks for the back-up, though. You seem to have a better grip on these fad gadgets we call computers than I do. You're especially good with those little dancing dudes.
I was really glad to see long time rivals Swamp and Batts engaging in civil communications, and I wanted to post that article to prolong the love-fest. It was a good thing to see. And I am not joking about that.

[LostArt]

LA,
The link actually worked, so I guess I'm learning!:confused: I could have copied and pasted, but that's cheating. Actually, it's probaly just easier, huh? Thanks for the back-up, though. You seem to have a better grip on these fad gadgets we call computers than I do. You're especially good with those little dancing dudes.

It's cheating???? hehehehe Actually some of the guys here will read it if it's posted. But the link is easier and somewhat less time consuming. Not everyone has DSL. ;)

HA! So you like my dancing dudes, eh Dave? :D I just wish Swamp would make us a lineman smilie. You know, one that dances up and down the poles. Now, wouldn't that be neat? Hehehehe..

[LostArt]

I was really glad to see long time rivals Swamp and Batts engaging in civil communications, and I wanted to post that article to prolong the love-fest. It was a good thing to see. And I am not joking about that.

LMAO! Well, if you would of read those two about 5 yrs ago or more you would have REALLY got an eyeopener!http://www.avowners.com/forum/smileys/cool087.gif

[Dave@PSE&G]

I just wish Swamp would make us a lineman smilie. You know, one that dances up and down the poles. Now, wouldn't that be neat? Hehehehe..

They have them already. I think they're called strippers.;)

I joined this board in 2/06. Tell me more, were those 2 actually buds in a past life, or mortal enemies?

[LostArt]

They have them already. I think they're called strippers.;)

Linemen Strippers? Now I've heard it all! :D




I joined this board in 2/06. Tell me more, were those 2 actually buds in a past life, or mortal enemies?

Hehe. I didn't join until 2004, but I was reading this site long before then.

Mortal enemies? Heh. I'm not sure how it all started, but my guess is that it was political. And back then, there were F bombs written all over this site. It comes with the territory, I know this, but these two are very MILD compared to back then. NO LIE.

I guess we should ask them how this happened. So? Steve? Swamp? How did it happen? Inquiring minds want to know!!! :D

[Dave@PSE&G]

Linemen Strippers? Now I've heard it all! :D



Hehe. I didn't join until 2004, but I was reading this site long before then.

Mortal enemies? Heh. I'm not sure how it all started, but my guess is that it was political. And back then, there were F bombs written all over this site. It comes with the territory, I know this, but these two are very MILD compared to back then. NO LIE.

I guess we should ask them how this happened. So? Steve? Swamp? How did it happen? Inquiring minds want to know!!! :D
LA,
Are you sure that this is a good idea? It may open old wounds.

[LostArt]

That answer your question LA?

Yep, we all know we best post our location with you! :D

Dave, I think Steve was in Swamp's post somewhere. Probably about having "discussions". :D

They just fuss, cuss, and discuss is all. http://www.avowners.com/forum/smileys/doh001.gif :D